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re: Statistical Analysis of Alabama and officiating
Posted on 11/9/09 at 1:25 pm to Katy Tiger
Posted on 11/9/09 at 1:25 pm to Katy Tiger
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I've been watching SEC football for decades. Everyone I know thinks that Bama has always gotten the benefit of the doubt from refs.
Everyone you know probably also hate Bama. Do you think it makes any difference that decades of SEC fans have grown up watching Bama be the dominant team of the conference? I know LSU and Florida took over in the 90's and 00's, but most of these opinions are originating with people who aren't 17 years old. You don't think the hate for Bama is at all influenced by the fact that Bama was the team to beat for years and years?
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Posted on 11/9/09 at 1:32 pm to tigercavor
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I agree. This should be done and if only bama fans are against it, that might tell you something.
I don't care where it's located but let's move it because of an econonic reason instead of some wacko fans that believe in black helicopters.
Posted on 11/9/09 at 1:39 pm to Schwaaz
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I don't care where it's located
I say move it too. Birmingham is a slum. But it cannot be moved to another conference teams state. Then that team would be getting the benefits.
I will not support moving it to Atlanta. That is in Georgia's territory. Definitely not Florida, Louisiana, Tennessee, Arkansas, SC, Kentucky, Mississippi, and Alabama is out. So where? Washington, DC. would be a good choice. It has no college football team that hates any of the SEC teams. If we move it up north, the yankee teams hate all SEC teams. We could move it out of the country, like Mexico. There should be no bias there.
Posted on 11/9/09 at 1:44 pm to jatebe
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I will not support moving it to Atlanta. That is in Georgia's territory. Definitely not Florida
So are worried about its location also.
I say move it to Indianapolis before the SEC becomes the old SWC and implodes.
Posted on 11/9/09 at 1:46 pm to tigercavor
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I say move it to Indianapolis
Hell No! Notre Dame hates Alabama.
Posted on 11/9/09 at 2:23 pm to tigercavor
Can anybody explain how moving the SEC office outside of the SEC makes any sense at all? I don't care where it is, Birmingham, Atlanta, Nashville, New Orleans, or any other place because it really doesn't matter. If you think where the office is located has anything to do with officials you are insane. As for the number of penalties, how many of LSU's penalties Saturday where pre-snap infractions (false start, delay of game, substitution, etc)? I know there were an awful lot of them. Those aren't objective calls where officials could be giving one school a break. Those are penalties caused by mental mistakes by the offensive players and they either happen or they don't, and if they happen they will be called everytime no matter what.
Posted on 11/9/09 at 2:30 pm to bigpapamac
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As for the number of penalties, how many of LSU's penalties Saturday where pre-snap infractions (false start, delay of game, substitution, etc)? I know there were an awful lot of them. Those aren't objective calls where officials could be giving one school a break. Those are penalties caused by mental mistakes by the offensive players and they either happen or they don't, and if they happen they will be called everytime no matter what.
and this all goes back to coaching, not officials.
Posted on 11/11/09 at 8:59 am to 4nmylifetime
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and this all goes back to coaching, not officials.
Then how to explain Bama's lack of penalties under Shula? Or Florida 2008 being 11th in penalties? Thought they had a pretty good staff in Gainesville last year.
And what about opponents' penalties? Leaders in this category the last 4 years have been Vandy, MSU, and two 6-6 Bama teams.
Posted on 11/11/09 at 10:10 am to RidiculousHype
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And what about opponents' penalties? Leaders in this category the last 4 years have been Vandy, MSU, and two 6-6 Bama teams.
So what you're saying is, there's a conspiracy to get either a Bama/Vandy or MSU/Vandy matchup in the SECCG?
Posted on 11/11/09 at 10:13 am to RMFTBama
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Holding occurs on almost every play you idiot. I love how when people are trying to prove that officials are biased they always cite "holding" because there is no way to prove or disprove a holding call 95% of the time.
So if holding occurs on 95% of the plays, and Alabama is never called for holding, what does that say?
Posted on 11/11/09 at 10:15 am to Choupique19
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So if holding occurs on 95% of the plays, and Alabama is never called for holding, what does that say?
Our players know when to let go?
Posted on 11/11/09 at 10:15 am to W4LSU
" They were holding all game. right in front of the refs." And LSU wasn't....go back and watch the game without the blinders especially on your 2nd TD. 
This post was edited on 11/11/09 at 10:16 am
Posted on 11/11/09 at 10:16 am to Teague
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So what you're saying is, there's a conspiracy to get either a Bama/Vandy or MSU/Vandy matchup in the SECCG?
lol. no, what he's saying is... discipline is a fairy tale. no team has discipline... and they should all TIE for at least 5th place or worse... there's no such thing as 1st through 4th place... they don't exist because it's unfair.
This post was edited on 11/11/09 at 10:17 am
Posted on 11/11/09 at 10:17 am to m2pro
fwiw: i would LISTEN to these numbers if we were dead last for 8 out of 10 years in a decade, and the other 2 years we were 1st place... that would seem inconsistent or weird.
Posted on 11/11/09 at 10:23 am to W4LSU
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They were holding all game, right infront of the refs
To be fair, I don't remember any holding calls against LSU either. You can't tell me they didn't hold at any point during the game.
Posted on 11/11/09 at 10:28 am to Teague
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Our players know when to let go?
Closer to the truth than people realize. Players (all teams) stop, for whatever reason, before it reaches the level of a foul.
Posted on 11/11/09 at 10:28 am to Martavius
What I don't get, is there was one missed call that went against LSU. What else is everyone arguing about? Don't blame us if our players didn't jump offsides several times and your's did. Most of the calls against LSU were pretty blatant.
None of the other calls or noncalls were obviously bad.
None of the other calls or noncalls were obviously bad.
Posted on 11/11/09 at 10:30 am to Choupique19
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and Alabama is never called for holding, what does that say?
You don't remember the uncalled holding on Cody when Scott ran past him for a TD last year in TS?
You don't remember a Bama TD being called back for a holding penalty last year in TS?
Posted on 11/11/09 at 10:33 am to arlo
Don't use logic, they don't like that.
Posted on 11/11/09 at 10:33 am to Klaus
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I am not a conspiracy theorist, but I do believe the SEC needs to relocate their headquarters and do a complete review of every football official.
Find some real estate zoned for office use that is of adequate size to house the SEC staff and is properly equipped to handle said staff where the rent is $1 a year...
Go ahead, go for it.
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