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re: Stanley McClover (recent interview)
Posted on 7/31/12 at 5:03 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
Posted on 7/31/12 at 5:03 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
The worst thing about all that is, they actually believe that shite.
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Posted on 7/31/12 at 5:04 pm to Ross
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That's pretty hilarious, but ATPB/THE MEGATHREAD edge it out by a nose.
I'm going to assume you never heard of Operation Red Dog. I don't understand how you see a bunch of idiots talking about bullshite on a message board trumps someone hiding in bushes to photograph prospects and illegally running vin numbers. Then sending the "information" to Paul Finebaum and the NCAA.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 5:04 pm to crimsonian
I don't follow you, but this thread is starting to bore me.
We need more dumb people to laugh at.
We need more dumb people to laugh at.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 5:04 pm to TTsTowel
They posted a tax return I prepared on there once. 
Posted on 7/31/12 at 5:04 pm to WDE24
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It isn't intellectually dishonest. Couldn't one person be telling the truth and the other be lying. Couldn't someone honestly believe that after a year of investigation by the NCAA, FBI, and every journalist in the country that it is possible Cam wasn't paid while also questioning the credibility of a guy who says he was paid but shies away when asked to give verifiable details.
McClover very well could have been paid, as Cam could have. But your attempted point that someone has to believe them both or neither one is silly.
There is a reason court's of law let in otherwise hearsay statements that are against one's interest. Here the poster in question believes one person making exculpatory statements which they stand to gain from, while discounting inculpatory statements that hurt the reputation of the speaker. It is pretty clear that there is a viewpoint bias driving that discrepancy.
Again, to recap.
If you say you weren't paid, that means you weren't no questions asked.
If you say you were paid, you aren't credible.
It is the exact opposite of how one evaluates every other statement. It is dishonest. One can say that they believe neither was paid. One can say they think one was paid and not the other. One cannot say credibly that neither was paid, based on why guy saying he wasn't and the other guy saying he was but because it is negative they choose not to believe him.
You hold him to the standard of he needs to give details. He says they gave me cash. You say prove it. Isn't that the point of cash? Hell the only reason they caught SMU was because of that envelope with the hand writing on it. This blueprint has been out there forever precisely because details are pretty nondescript.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 5:06 pm to crimsonian
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Sure about that?
so yall weren't the leaders...just the followers?
Posted on 7/31/12 at 5:07 pm to CapstoneGrad06
I'm pretty sure people associated with ATPB/Megathread also sent shite to NCAA officials.
Hiding in a bush made me laugh though.
Close call.
Hiding in a bush made me laugh though.
Close call.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 5:08 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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someone hiding in bushes to photograph prospects and illegally running vin numbers.
BTW, this same thing was done to Mario Fannin.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 5:08 pm to Ross
If Bama fans paid McGlover to say this, you might have something.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 5:09 pm to joeyb147
Remember, there must be proof or it didn't happen.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 5:10 pm to joeyb147
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BTW, this same thing was done to Mario Fannin.
In fairness, Fannin had a chance to stop it. He grabbed the camera and took off runnning...but the photographer picked it back up when he fumbled it.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 5:10 pm to NBamaAlum
Posted on 7/31/12 at 5:10 pm to NBamaAlum
Posted on 7/31/12 at 5:11 pm to crimsonian
Not when his story has been blown up and he has offered nothing of evidence or names. He even went on a radio show and said he would reveal. After the host went through his diatribe and asked Stanley a few questions, they suddenly went to break and the host returned with nothing. Stanley had left.
Who was the host? His newly hired Public relations expert who Stanley quickly fired the next day. He spent two hours with the NCAA and offered nothing. A man whose character was getting assisinated and he does nothing to prove his story. His own HS coaches, friends, teammates refute what he says, and he has provided nothing to clear his reputation. Same with the other three, NOTHING.
Who was the host? His newly hired Public relations expert who Stanley quickly fired the next day. He spent two hours with the NCAA and offered nothing. A man whose character was getting assisinated and he does nothing to prove his story. His own HS coaches, friends, teammates refute what he says, and he has provided nothing to clear his reputation. Same with the other three, NOTHING.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 5:11 pm to NBamaAlum
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In fairness, Fannin had a chance to stop it. He grabbed the camera and took off runnning...but the photographer picked it back up when he fumbled it.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 5:11 pm to crimsonian
quote:Who?
McGlover
Posted on 7/31/12 at 5:12 pm to therick711
quote:Him claiming he was paid is in no way against his interests.
There is a reason court's of law let in otherwise hearsay statements that are against one's interest.
quote:How do they hurt his reputation?
while discounting inculpatory statements that hurt the reputation of the speaker.
quote:Strawman. No one made that claim but you. More questions were asked than ever and it was determined that there wasn't any evidence that he was paid.
Again, to recap.
If you say you weren't paid, that means you weren't no questions asked.
quote:If you refuse to answer questions about it other than blanket statements, then there is some reason to doubt the story.
If you say you were paid, you aren't credible.
quote:Not at all.
It is dishonest.
To use your legal analogy: Cam was investigated and the DA couldn't make a case against him or AU.
McClover reported a crime, but when the investigators showed up he wouldn't tell them when, where or who. Yet he would get attention by going on national tv and give interviews talking about how bad the crime was.
While it may be wrong, it is certainly not intellectually dishonest to think he isn't credible.
quote:He could say who, how much, where, when? Answers to these would provide details to better determine the credibility of his statements.
You hold him to the standard of he needs to give details. He says they gave me cash. You say prove it. Isn't that the point of cash?
This post was edited on 7/31/12 at 5:13 pm
Posted on 7/31/12 at 5:13 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
I hope you guys keep trashing him. Could make him change his mind. He seems to be pissed at his former teammates already.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 5:13 pm to CapstoneGrad06
It should probably make me sad that there are so many crazy arse people out there in this state that root for football teams, but I can't do anything but laugh at it right now.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 5:16 pm to NBamaAlum
loved that NB 
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