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re: S.O.S. and "Resumes" Are Complete BS

Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:40 pm to
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
90221 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:40 pm to
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eah but what some fail to realize is OSU is claiming wins for their resume against La-Laf and Tulsa. No offense but they are not world beaters. GSU could probably beat both, but no one gives them credit because they are DI-AA. UM thought the same thing about App State.

Also they claim victories over Mizzou and Texas, both 7-5 teams. The only ranked team either beat was Mizzou beating Texas. Yes maybe their record of 7-5 is better than UF or MSU record of 6-6, but lets look at who UF and MSU played. MSU 6 losses were against every ranked SEC team in the BCS, including 4 that are currently ranked in the top 10. You think Mizzou or Texas would be be 7-5 if they had to play LSU, UA, Ark, UGA, AU, and USC. Neither team would be bowl bound IMO. UF has 5 losses against those teams.

So now those 7 wins for OSu over teams with winning records, lets not forget FBS teams like it matters, but 2 are cupcakes for a power conference(freebees) and the other 2 are no better than 6-6 MSU or UF.


Wow, YES.
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
14927 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:40 pm to


calm down.
I was just saying his point was dumb. If you can't say if the pac-12 is good or big ten is good, how can you say the sec is good either?

I'm just looking at things unbiased. Just because we win the nc and have the best team doesn't mean the rest of the conference is good, see what I am saying?

Again, we need s.o.s. to determine situations like we did with putting alabama in the nc. because even though the computers are dumb (don't know how), the voters realize bama had the harder s.o.s
Posted by motorbreath
New Orleans Saints fan
Member since Jun 2004
6381 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:40 pm to
WVU is not a great team. But they do have a great offense. The only reason bamas defense is ranked higher than LSUs is because LSU has faced much better offenses like WVU and Oregon while bamas marquis OOC matchup was against Penn State, who has an epically bad offense.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
13187 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:41 pm to
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Bama's sole argument was that there loss wasn't as bad as Okie St.


Actually my arguement is the opposite. I argue OSU resume is a joke to say all their wins actually added value. Four of those wins were against subpar teams. Three were legit to be argued that they can place value on.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
90221 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:43 pm to
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It should be mandatory for every conference to have a championship game


Why the hell isn't this a rule?
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
13187 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:44 pm to
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WVU is not a great team. But they do have a great offense. The only reason bamas defense is ranked higher than LSUs is because LSU has faced much better offenses like WVU and Oregon while bamas marquis OOC matchup was against Penn State, who has an epically bad offense.


I agree why I do not put alot of merit into ranking defense or offense. In conferences where the offenses are rated high the defenses are usually rated lower. Same in the reverse.
Posted by TotalYatMove
Member since Oct 2010
1687 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:44 pm to
Bama's wins were pretty shitty. You used nothing by biased opinion to marginalize the other team's schedule. The exact same could be do to Bama.

I'm sure glad this wasn't a thread to justify Bama...
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
17014 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:46 pm to
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Indfanfromcol


You are making the most sense than anyone in this thread, and every moron here is ignoring your posts.

What do you Bama fans not get?

YOU'RE LOSSES ARE INCLUDED IN S.O.S.!!!!

Therefore you idiots arguing that Bama is better than Okie St. because they lost to a 6-6 team, are using S.O.S. to determine your opinion.
Posted by NWAustinTigers
Austin, TX
Member since Oct 2004
441 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:46 pm to
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That is easy OSU. And not because I think they would deserve, but because it would be a lot easier game to win. That is what this whole debate is about. Not who is more deserving but who LSU would rather play.


I agree. So why do Bama fans have to start these type of threads?
Posted by NewGuy01
Internet
Member since Nov 2008
4243 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:47 pm to
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LSU only scored 3 FGs against UA in TTown. GSU scored 3 TDs agains UA in TTown. My point is just because LSU gave up alot of points to WVU does not mean UA would.




Whoa, whoa, whoa. Calm down. What are all these matchups you're referencing? Are you seriously comparing LSU and GSU based on their comparative performance against Alabama? I thought you didn't pay any attention to OOC games. I thought we couldn't measure teams based on common opponents. Isn't that the whole point of this thread?

Mind = Blown.
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
14927 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:47 pm to
Because until this year, the Big 10 and pac 10 were enjoying the advantages of not having one, and the main people incharge still suck on big 10 dick.

but now both of them have one, I could see this rule coming in the near future.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
13187 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:48 pm to
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I agree. So why do Bama fans have to start these type of threads?


To be honest I am not sure.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
90221 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:50 pm to
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I'm just looking at things unbiased


I'm not down with this unbiased stuff Honestly I see what you mean. If an alien looked at it without any former knowledge he would have to use something. And S.O.S would be a big part of it.
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
14927 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:51 pm to
Thanks.

They just hear that the computers had ok state in front of them because of s.o.s., but no one wants to see that all the voters and coaches see that their s.o.s. (including teams they beat AND loss) was better than ok state. Which is why they are in.

Most of them time, people dont respond to me when I make sense. Just when I flame. Like right now, only ReauxlTide222 wants to have an intelligent conversation.
Posted by Doc John
The Cave
Member since Nov 2010
410 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:56 pm to
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Let me be clear that I am not making this thread to defend Alabama's case. But come on...

"They have the better resume."
"We have the better resume."
"You didn't play anybody."

These arguments are dumb!

1.) Schedules are sometimes made 10 or more years in advance. So how can you know in 2001, whether a team you play in 2011 is going to still be a powerhouse or fall apart?

Case in point. If LSU or AL had schedule a home/away series in 2004 with USC for 2011, you'd still be thinking you were playing a powerhouse program under Pete Carroll. How did Alabama know when they scheduled Penn State that they would suck this year? You never know.

2.) Strength of conference. I can't imagine how many times I've watched the Big 12 or Pac 12 and said "man those guys are good" only to see them flop in the bowl. Computers can try to judge. Humans can try but it won't work. And you can't really say a team matches up well with another until you see how things turned out after the bowl games are finished.

We assume the Big 12 is good this year. Heard that before. OSU/Ole Miss anyone?

Until the bowl season is over and you see the better match-ups play out, you have no idea what conference/teams are actually strong.



One of the dumbest things I have ever read on here.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
90221 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:56 pm to
No sense in being an asshat when other people are being respectful. I'm just happy there haven't been any "9-6 pussy!" or "Alabama dominated!" comments.
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
14927 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:59 pm to
It's not to late, I can throw a classic 9-6 in the conversation if you want.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
90221 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 9:01 pm to
I dare you
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
14927 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 9:03 pm to
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Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
14927 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 9:03 pm to
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