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re: Someone give the cliffs. Is ole miss better off or worse than 24 hours ago

Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:23 pm to
Posted by reboil
Member since Feb 2010
495 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:23 pm to
The first NOA had no LOIC. Added after the Leo and Kobe bs immunity. OM say they lied so LOIC is also bs. One thing to note the boosters who these two snitch bitches are claiming gave them stuff have lawyered up and are going to fight being disassociated since they claim they did nothing nada zilch.
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
14006 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:25 pm to
Leo Lewis's allegations aren't backed up by evidence and a lot of it is contradicted by evidence.

the NCAA based the whole amended (or 2nd NOA) on his testimony.

Not to mention OM was not notified of these interviews and was not allowed to cross examine LL.
This post was edited on 6/6/17 at 4:27 pm
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17746 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:26 pm to
quote:

the boosters who these two snitch bitches are claiming gave them stuff have lawyered up and are going to fight being disassociated since they claim they did nothing nada zilch.




Please let this get to a court of law. I keep thinking it can't get worse for OM, but every time it does
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
14006 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:27 pm to
quote:

Please let this get to a court of law. I keep thinking it can't get worse for OM, but every time it does


There is 0 chance any of the LL testimony will hold up in a court of law. 0 chance.
Posted by UAtide11
Member since Apr 2014
2190 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:30 pm to
quote:

There is 0 chance any of the LL testimony will hold up in a court of law. 0 chance.


The bad part for Ole Miss is, that will only make it to the court of law well after the sanctions have been imposed. Won't help OM just the boosters or coaches who try to sue.

Todd McNair was fired in 2010, his trial date is set for April of 2018.
This post was edited on 6/6/17 at 4:34 pm
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17746 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:33 pm to
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There is 0 chance any of the LL testimony will hold up in a court of law. 0 chance.


Guess what will hold up? All the freaking records that will be subpoenaed, which the NCAA hasn't been able to look at because they don't have that power.

Again I'll say, PLEASE let any of this go to court
This post was edited on 6/6/17 at 4:34 pm
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
14006 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:36 pm to
If it goes to court, everyone in the LL recruitment will go down. And I mean everyone.

This is the exact reason Slive wanted to keep this stuff in house and Saban wouldn't allow his players to be interviewed.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17746 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:39 pm to
Definition of true believer


1
a person who professes absolute belief in something


2
a zealous supporter of a particular cause

See:HottyToddy7
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:40 pm to
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If it goes to court,

won't. you are a voluntary member of the NCAA. you voluntarily agree to abide by their rules. Bama, USC, etc didn't take it to court. Surely Ole Miss doesn't choose this as their "hold my beer" moment.

Also, if my math is right, is Ole Miss basically NOT denying 6 level 1 violations? If so, you're getting more reductions than the laughable 11 over 4 years you self-imposed.
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
14006 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:41 pm to
Or someone who has read both NOA and both responses and has been following this story for 5 years and not getting facts from people who either

1) have hatred towards OM and want it see harm

or

2) People that believe what they hear without actually doing any reading. These are also the type of people who believe that their school is clean.
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
14006 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:42 pm to
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11 over 4 years you self-imposed


And the bowl ban

and the fines

and allowing for the NCAA to "save face" to tack on 7 or 8 to show that they did something.
Posted by omrebelfan20
27-24 Corndog Blvd
Member since Sep 2012
4845 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:43 pm to
still gonna beat the piss out of LSU either way
Posted by BobLeeDagger
In Your Head
Member since May 2016
6915 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:45 pm to
Believe the lies. Just keep believing. Your administration has taken you for a fool this whole time. Not surprised you still allow them to lead you astray.
Posted by rebsfan10
Member since Dec 2013
1566 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:46 pm to
quote:

Definition of true believer


1
a person who professes absolute belief in something


2
a zealous supporter of a particular cause

See:HottyToddy7


I agree with you that if this goes to court that it will be bad for Ole Miss, but it will be bad for a lot of teams. Do you really think Leo Lewis didn't get offered anything to go to State or LSU or Bama? I'm not going to act like I know what all went down, but I would bet none of those schools would want Lewis to be under oath and talking about his recruitment. Ole Miss is already getting in trouble, this going to court would hurt other teams. Someone else made the point, this is why Saban did not let his players talk to the NCAA.
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
14006 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:46 pm to
You mean the lies that are in the response to the NOA that they are basing their livelihood on and in 3 months have to prove it in front of the COI?


Yeah, the justification to lie at this point in the process isn't there.
Posted by bville_hog
Member since Sep 2014
80 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:47 pm to
This is a win-win, either Ole Miss gets slapped down hard and if not, it is open season on violating any NCAA rule you want based on precedent.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:48 pm to
quote:

And the bowl ban

and the fines

and allowing for the NCAA to "save face" to tack on 7 or 8 to show that they did something.



Yeah, bro, but SIX level 1 violations that you are admitting to PLUS you can't assume the NCAA will just drop their case on the ones you dispute. That won't happen.

It's gonna be about 21-24 scholarships over 3-4 years, a 2 year bowl ban, and maybe a show cause or two for assistants.
Posted by Jeb Busch Lite
Member since Apr 2016
1860 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:49 pm to
quote:

The University has concluded that significant violations occurred in connection with its football program over a period of years, including during this investigation.


The University itself said this today. Take that any way you want
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
14006 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:50 pm to
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a 2 year bowl ban


this is the fighting point. And after reading the response, I seriously doubt that happens.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30216 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:51 pm to
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There is 0 chance any of the LL testimony will hold up in a court of law. 0 chance.

Will it matter by the time it "goes to court?"

The NCAA will have already levied the penalties, and OM will be years down the road suffering and recovering from the sanctions before Leo Lewis' testimony hits a court room.

If Ole Miss hasn't already filed a lawsuit against the very organization they are a voluntary member of by now, then it's too late.
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