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re: SOGology - NCAA Tournament Projections as of 1-13-25 : 11 teams in, 2 first 5 out

Posted on 1/13/25 at 12:21 pm to
Posted by BoCam2
Alabama
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 12:21 pm to
I could see a scenario over the next 2-3 weeks where AU drops a few without Broome and becomes a nightmare as a 3-5 seed.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 12:23 pm to
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I could see a scenario over the next 2-3 weeks where AU drops a few without Broome and becomes a nightmare as a 3-5 seed.


Auburn would have to really have a tough stretch to drop to a 3-5 seed. I think their floor at this point is a 3 seed, and that's if they lose the majority of their tough road games (Georgia, Ole Miss, Bama, Kentucky, A&M). They just aren't going to lose more than 1-2 home games even in the worst scenario, so you are looking at an overall worst case scenario of going like 10-5 over the last 15.........which puts them at 25-6 (13-5). That probably has them sitting at a #2 seed I'd guess (maybe still #1 given their depth of quality wins and schedule difficulty).
This post was edited on 1/13/25 at 12:24 pm
Posted by OU Guy
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 12:26 pm to
I keep saying we only get 8 or 9 in and thats it. OU will either be a bubble or out team by end of year. And wins against us won’t be the quality they appeared to be early on.

Committee likes to punish big conf bubble teams to insert Cinderella teams.

Here’s KFord rankings and OU not even top 30

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Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 12:29 pm to
Oklahoma definitely needs to find a way to win 3 of their next 5

- vs Texas
- vs South Carolina
- @ Arkansas
- @ Texas A&M
- vs Vanderbilt

If they are sitting at 16-5 (3-5) when they go to Auburn on 2/4 they'll be in decent shape. 15-6 (2-6) definitely not feeling great with @ Auburn, vs Tennessee, @ Missouri on deck. Anything worse than that over the next 5 and they're in trouble.
This post was edited on 1/13/25 at 12:31 pm
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 12:33 pm to
We are in trouble and there is no path for Moser to get this team to playoffs. Thats my take and even though our next 3 games are vs all 0-3 teams, we will not even won all 3. Then it actually gets hard. Even if we get to 2-4, we will lose more than win the remaining games.

This is normal Moser teams. Flash in OOC. Fall apart in Conf play.
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 12:35 pm to
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Us old timers look in shock at seeing Auburn and Alabama 1 and 2.


Live shot of Hell this morning.

Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 12:35 pm to

Oops

:)

This post was edited on 1/13/25 at 12:38 pm
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
8762 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 1:49 pm to
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I keep saying we only get 8 or 9 in and thats it.


I don't think --especially with the expanded conferences -- that there's any real ceiling for bids. The final number just basically comes down to distribution of losses in conference play.

Just due to all the quality OOC wins, there are 15 SEC teams that will definitely get a bid if they finish 9-9 in conference play. The vast majority of those get in at 8-10.

For the SEC to only get 8-9 bids would mean 7 or 8 teams all finish worse than 8-10 and that's pretty unlikely.

Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
19992 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 2:12 pm to
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I don't think --especially with the expanded conferences -- that there's any real ceiling for bids. The final number just basically comes down to distribution of losses in conference play.

Just due to all the quality OOC wins, there are 15 SEC teams that will definitely get a bid if they finish 9-9 in conference play. The vast majority of those get in at 8-10.

For the SEC to only get 8-9 bids would mean 7 or 8 teams all finish worse than 8-10 and that's pretty unlikely.



The issue with basketball there are so many popcorn state conferences and each gets an auto bid. So their reg season winner likely locks on then some random team wins conference playoffs and gets auto bid. That takes away bubble teams.

And its really hard for so many good SEC teams to win due to depth. So that usually takes care of itself and you have teams 9-12 in the bubble range. Then these surprise popcorn conferences gobble up the spots that teams 9-12 might take. Or committee wants balance and gives extra slot to other conferences. They like Cinderella teams too.

For OU, making it in just extends the Moser agony. He has no system. Just players dribbling and shooting late in clock. Better to bite the coaching bullet now than extend another year if he makes it.

Even if we win our next 3 games to get to 3-3 in conf (we won’t) then we start playing the good teams.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
8762 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 2:45 pm to
I think there's a good chance Oklahoma misses out and finishes around 7-11 in the SEC. I just don't think that means the SEC only gets 8-9 bids.

It'll be due to Oklahoma losing 50/50ish games to Texas, Vandy, Arkansas and Missouri. And those are the key games those other teams will need to make the tourney.

There's already 9 teams that just need to avoid disastrous slumps:

Almost impossible for these teams to miss tourney (5):
Auburn, Alabama, Florida, Kentucky, Tennessee

These have excellent resumes, are playing well, and would take a huge collapse to miss the tourney (4):
Miss St, Texas A&M, Ole Miss, Georgia

These 5 are all somewhat bubbly now but still just need to finish .500 in the SEC:
Missouri, Vanderbilt, Texas, Oklahoma and Arkansas

Would be surprising to not see 2 of this last group make it even it's just due to surviving against the other ones.

Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
46599 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 2:49 pm to
Nice work Georgie!
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
33218 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 3:20 pm to
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South Carolina are the only teams well out of the picture.


You almost have to feel bad about South Carolina. All but 1 of their losses are to ranked teams (currently Q1 and Q2 - only 1 Q2 loss), but that Q4 loss to North Florida is an albatross around their neck.

They'll need to get some upsets to get in. Hard to find any on their remaining schedule.
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