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re: so did Kiffin just not want to coach at Arkansas, or was the Ole Miss offer much better

Posted on 12/12/19 at 1:27 pm to
Posted by Rougarou13
Brookhaven MS
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 12/12/19 at 1:27 pm to
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Don't read much into that, obviously they know Pittman doesn't demand the salary that Kiffin would so why offer him something like that when you don't have t


But you can read into it that they were possibly looking for a similar type negotiation with anyone they hired. Kiffin has failed at 4 out of 5 HC jobs. I would have imagined that they had hoped to get him for a bargain.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 1:31 pm to
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But you can read into it that they were possibly looking for a similar type negotiation with anyone they hired.


I don't think so, we can go into a ton of rumors but most seem to line up that the offer was close to Ole Miss at the very least.

I think you can read into it, that they were looking for someone to accept similar contract stipulations which would be hard for any established coach to accept.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 1:41 pm to
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and this is why we're ALL laughing at Arkansas fans.


So you guys are celebrating that you hired a guy with a faulty moral compass? That's fine, I guess. After all, You Are Ole Miss.

No matter how it shook out with Kiffin and Yurachek I think Arkansas positioned itself better than did Ole Miss. Time will tell, but if Pittman's staff comes together the way folks think it might the Pittman hire is going to come off smelling like a rose.

to having the known cheater at a place fresh off NCAA Sanctions. What could go wrong? Ole Miss just out here living their best life.

ETA: can we get a status check on the Lane Kiffin burner phone situation? Does anyone know if he's bought one or not yet?
This post was edited on 12/12/19 at 1:43 pm
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 12/12/19 at 2:20 pm to
sweet melt, bitch.
Posted by BoarEd
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Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 2:30 pm to
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sweet melt, bitch.



This is what people say when they run out of shite to say. It doesn't mean what you think it means.
Posted by Grateful Reb
Member since Apr 2011
8070 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 2:49 pm to
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BoarEd


That’s right, let it all out.

You feel better?

eta: pank’s just speaking the truth. If your 2nd to last post isn’t a melt, then nothing is
This post was edited on 12/12/19 at 2:50 pm
Posted by msu202020
Member since Feb 2011
4142 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 2:55 pm to
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Kiffin has failed at 4 out of 5 HC jobs.


He parlayed the TN job into a bigger more prestigious program at USC.

He parlayed the FAU job into a bigger more prestigious program at Ole Miss.

How did he fail at 4 out of 5 HC jobs?
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
Member since Sep 2013
14243 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 2:57 pm to
He wasn’t offered the Arkansas job.

Whether it was because he lost interest or we got gun shy because of his background isn’t known.
Posted by Quicksilver
Poker Room
Member since Jan 2013
10745 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 3:00 pm to
Cmon man. Everyone knows what happened. Even your mods have admitted it.
This post was edited on 12/12/19 at 3:00 pm
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15391 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 3:21 pm to
Ole Miss landed one of the best coaches, if not the, best coach of the class this year so Arkansas fans look foolish to act like they didnt want him.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Member since Nov 2013
35928 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 3:29 pm to
the actual truth in all seriousness...

The usual (outwardly) holier than thou faction of our fanbase, and more specifically their men in the BOT, torpedoed the hire. On purpose. They demanded ridiculous levels of "moral clause" and "incentive clause" in the contract so as to intentionally piss Lane off, and left Hunter holding the bag on it.

The controlled "media" in Arkansas were instructed to scorch the earth on Lane. Little dipshit Wally did it and so did several talk radio whiners, admitted minions of the church of Malzahn.

These were all the same general people who did FOI"s on Petrino's phone records after the motorcycle wreck because they were still angry Petrino got the job in 2008 over their lawd and sav'ya Gus Malzahn. I'm no Jeff Long fan, but they blamed everything on him as well because he didn't hire Gus in 2013. Same folks who snickered when our dipshit PTB's let Malzahn use us for a raise at Auburn two years ago and then hired his little punk mouse friend from Texas Morris. Then two years later blame it on the asst AD lady Julie Peoples. All revisionists shite. So then this time - and it would have been different if Auburn had lost to Bama - the play was the make John Tyson happy and hire his buddy Butch Davis, so then 68 year old Davis could hand it off to L. Ron Malzahn in a year or two. Same folks who did all the prejudged insinuation of "moral character issues" on the Memphis coach who went to Florida State.

Same type folks who will eat three fully stocked fried chicken dinner plates, and reign down hellfire and brimstone on someone who drinks a beer.

Lane Kiffin would have been a heathen and not welcome in the Church of L. Ron Malzahn

They ran Kiffin off in 2017 and 2019. They ran the Memphis coach off in 2017 and 2019. Intentional. Left Hunter holding the bag.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
Coaching Changes Board
Member since Jan 2014
27244 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 3:31 pm to
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we got gun shy because of his background isn’t known.




The guy has the most well-known background of any coach hired this year. It's been on every media outlet for over a decade and is writ large on Twitter every single day.

This post was edited on 12/12/19 at 3:33 pm
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Member since Nov 2013
35928 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 3:33 pm to
and the new line that many Arkansas fans have swallowed is "Lane was never coming anyway." "He was never offered the job"

BS

Wally Hall himself wrote scorching vague BS stories about "many many good Arkansans had very serious concerns" and so did "the BOT" and OMG OMG SO BAD SO BAD. It's bad! It's bad!

Then after they ran him off with the moral clause and unrealisitc incentive clause level BS, the story shifted immediately - "Oh, it was just one member of the BOT with minor concerns, but it was never a problem."

Total bait and switch BS and that is what really happened. Some Arkansas posters will come whining about these two posts and they can preemptively kiss my arse.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15391 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 3:37 pm to
quote:

we got gun shy because of his background isn’t known.



quote:


The usual (outwardly) holier than thou faction of our fanbase, and more specifically their men in the BOT, torpedoed the hire. On purpose.



No one is buying this, OK. Just take the L. I know your message boards tell you this to make you feel better but it simply is not true. There is a long list of schools, Alabama included, that got turned down by one coach only to make a better hire. Now in your case this is clearly not true
This post was edited on 12/12/19 at 3:39 pm
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Member since Nov 2013
35928 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 3:41 pm to
quote:

No one is buying this, OK. Just take the L. I know your message boards tell you this to make you feel better but it simply is not true. There is a long list of schools, Alabama included, that got turned down by one coach only to make a better hire. Now in your case this is clearly not true



You can have at whatever you want to believe

Posted by MemoofUnderstanding
Member since Dec 2019
12 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 4:27 pm to
You rang?

Posted by MemoofUnderstanding
Member since Dec 2019
12 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 4:29 pm to
I was signed.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 4:47 pm to
Ever seen girls from Arkansas compared to Ole Miss? Sometimes it's the obvious answers that are correct.
Posted by redeye
Member since Aug 2013
8598 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 5:29 pm to
Yep, that's what happened. Kiffin signed a MOU until Yurachek could get some BOT members onboard. Otherwise, he would have signed a contract, instead. When Kiffin tried to use the Ole Miss job as leverage, Yurachek cut him loose. Kiffin tried to backpedal, claiming he preferred Arkansas, but it was too late.

Carter offered Kiffin the same deal, but without the morality clauses. Kiffin jumped on it once he realized Arkansas was off the table.
This post was edited on 12/12/19 at 5:32 pm
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 5:43 pm to
My sources are confirming this.
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