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Since some are still choosing to harp on A&M’s class…

Posted on 2/6/22 at 11:28 am
Posted by ForgetTheRest
Member since Oct 2015
2239 posts
Posted on 2/6/22 at 11:28 am
Nick Saban goes 7-6 in his first year at Alabama (2007), yet somehow manages to pull the #1 class in 2008. How is that possible?

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This post was edited on 2/6/22 at 11:30 am
Posted by Froman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
36214 posts
Posted on 2/6/22 at 11:30 am to
Nick Saban was already considered a great recruiter and Alabama pulled in top recruits even when they sucked.
Posted by MCSquared16
Member since Jan 2009
3399 posts
Posted on 2/6/22 at 11:30 am to
By paying them, duh. Same thing Pay&M did this year.

Take a lap, ForfeitTheRest
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71421 posts
Posted on 2/6/22 at 11:32 am to
Y’all have had top 5 and 10 classes. Still not scared.
Posted by geauxnavybeatbama
Member since Jul 2013
25134 posts
Posted on 2/6/22 at 11:33 am to
Because Jimbo is in year 5 and not a good coach anymore
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52491 posts
Posted on 2/6/22 at 11:36 am to
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By paying them, duh. Same thing Pay&M did this year.

Take a lap, ForfeitTheRest





Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30750 posts
Posted on 2/6/22 at 11:37 am to
Comparing Jimbo to Saban now?

Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18184 posts
Posted on 2/6/22 at 11:37 am to
Playing time, track record of rebuilding and success, and opportunity. Plus, who doesn't like chargers and free suits

Had he been 39-20 over his last 5 seasons as a HC, .500 in conference in year 4 of his current program, I think he'd be facing the same scrutiny as Jimbo and Aggie right now.

No one cares that Aggie leveraged the NIL opportunity available to them. But, why deny that is clearly the difference
Posted by Marktastic86
Pismo Beach, CA
Member since Dec 2020
12537 posts
Posted on 2/6/22 at 11:38 am to
The class isn't the issue. Jimbo being the head coach is the reason why you guys won't do shite with it.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 2/6/22 at 11:39 am to
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some
Who?
Posted by DownSouthJukin
Coaching Changes Board
Member since Jan 2014
27239 posts
Posted on 2/6/22 at 11:42 am to
Welcome to "As the Plains Burn 2022." No one gives a rat's arse about the Texas 8$4 recruiting class.
Posted by ForgetTheRest
Member since Oct 2015
2239 posts
Posted on 2/6/22 at 11:42 am to
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Nick Saban was already considered a great recruiter and Alabama pulled in top recruits even when they sucked.


So had Jimbo. He had been pulling top 5 and 10 classes before this one. And A&M with Sumlin had pulled better classes than Alabama before Saban, including a top 5 class.

Btw, here are Alabama's classes before Saban's first one:

2007-10
2006-11
2005-18
2004-15
2003-46
2002-30

Here are Jimbo's before the most recent:

2021-8
2020-6
2019-4
2018-17 (Hired around 1st signing period)
This post was edited on 2/6/22 at 11:49 am
Posted by tgrmeat
Member since Sep 2020
4334 posts
Posted on 2/6/22 at 11:43 am to
You seriously don't see the difference in the situations between Nick's first recruiting class at Bama vs. Jimbo's 4th or 5th (whatever it is) at 8&4? Hint - in Bama's situation Saban was the factor that changed in recruiting vs the previous years. IN 8&4's situation NIL is the only thing that has changed in comparison to previous years.
Posted by SouthernInsanity
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/6/22 at 12:49 pm to
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How is that possible?


$25-30k Charger for 5* players vs north of six figures for 5* players.
Posted by aTm boy
Member since Sep 2020
4267 posts
Posted on 2/6/22 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

Nick Saban was already considered a great recruiter and Alabama pulled in top recruits even when they sucked.


Jimbo is also known as a great recruiter and won a national championship which means he had the same amount of success as Saban when Saban had his first top recruiting class at Alabama. Now how will you move the goal post?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52491 posts
Posted on 2/6/22 at 12:58 pm to
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So had Jimbo. He had been pulling top 5 and 10 classes before this one


Interesting trend.

2019: 4
2020: 6
2021: 8
2022: 1
Posted by ForgetTheRest
Member since Oct 2015
2239 posts
Posted on 2/6/22 at 1:17 pm to
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You seriously don't see the difference in the situations between Nick's first recruiting class at Bama vs. Jimbo's 4th or 5th (whatever it is) at 8&4? Hint - in Bama's situation Saban was the factor that changed in recruiting vs the previous years. IN 8&4's situation NIL is the only thing that has changed in comparison to previous years.


Most of these relationships were established during A&M's 9-1 season. Many of the rest were at the Alabama game where the atmosphere was second to none including where we had the first assistant to knock off Saban. Throw in the coaching changes at Oklahoma, LSU, Auburn, Florida, Texas's bad season, and all of these factors led to an incredible class. Every program has NIL, not just A&M.
Posted by futbolisbetter
Member since Dec 2020
514 posts
Posted on 2/6/22 at 1:22 pm to
Just total BS there is no good atmosphere at A&M...its straight NIL all the way...no one cares but everyone knows
This post was edited on 2/6/22 at 1:22 pm
Posted by aTm boy
Member since Sep 2020
4267 posts
Posted on 2/6/22 at 1:28 pm to
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Interesting trend.

2019: 4
2020: 6
2021: 8
2022: 1


Looks like it is trending up. Great work Sidewalk.
Posted by bstew3006
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Member since Dec 2007
12576 posts
Posted on 2/6/22 at 1:30 pm to
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Had he been 39-20 over his last 5 seasons as a HC, .500 in conference in year 4 of his current program, I think he'd be facing the same scrutiny as Jimbo and Aggie right now.

No one cares that Aggie leveraged the NIL opportunity available to them. But, why deny that is clearly the difference



THIS!

The denial and Jimbo saying it’s Bc of the 12th man and academics is laughable. Then for him to inject cheating if other programs, shows he’s worried and should be. AM went full on SMU in the first year of NIL and used “pay-for-play”, which is illegal.
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