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Serious Question: Is the reason Tennessee is avoiding Les

Posted on 11/30/17 at 4:42 pm
Posted by thatguy45
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Posted on 11/30/17 at 4:42 pm
that Les more than likely wouldn't be a yes man to Haslam? Tennessee seems to prefer less experienced/weaker candidates (Doeren, Brohm, Schiano) or big names that barring a miracle aren't going to happen (Gruden, Gundy, Kelly).
It makes me wonder if Haslam has Currie give a throwaway offer to the big fish to try and show Tennessee fans theyre trying (ie: appease them), but really wants a weaker candidate that will do what he wants (whatever that may be on and off the field).
Les would undoubtedly tell Haslam to frick off if he wanted to whine about players he was starting or play calling.
What does tRant think?
Posted by biggsc
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Posted on 11/30/17 at 4:43 pm to
Hire Les already
Posted by TigerFan4040
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Posted on 11/30/17 at 4:44 pm to
quote:

What does tRant think?

Posted by Cobb Dawg
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Posted on 11/30/17 at 4:45 pm to
Other way around?
Posted by thatguy45
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Posted on 11/30/17 at 4:50 pm to
What do you mean? Les isn't interested because of Haslam's probable demands for control? I could see it, but sauces say he's actually interested in the job, so it's unclear
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 11/30/17 at 4:51 pm to
Their problem is that NO ONE has been a "Yes" man (other than Shiano)

There have been a looooonnngggg string of "NO" men!
This post was edited on 11/30/17 at 4:53 pm
Posted by Torch
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Posted on 11/30/17 at 4:59 pm to
You are asking tRANT to "seriously" make sense of the most ridiculous, nonsensical coaching search that has ever been conducted. Ludicrous question.

My personal opinion is that Currie hasn't been instructed to pursue Les yet. Haslam can't lose this one or his control is over.

If you look at the whole list of people that Clay Travis "supports," Currie has basically avoided all of them at this point other than Jeff Brohm. Mike Leach, Les Miles, Kevin Sumlin, Lane Kiffin and Tee Martin were all on his list.

Currie can't hire those guys, because that would be a win for us and a big fat L for Jimmy Haslam.
Posted by thatguy45
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Posted on 11/30/17 at 5:04 pm to
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Currie can't hire those guys, because that would be a win for us and a big fat L for Jimmy Haslam.

That would make sense. Doesn't want to be proven wrong.
Posted by CharlotteSooner
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Posted on 11/30/17 at 5:13 pm to
Why would any SEC school hire a re-tread from the "roster of the vanquished" collection of skulls Saban keeps by his desk?

Complaining about Saban and hoping for his retirement every year seems kinda dumb when you continually hire your coaches off of the conquered by Saban short list. All you're doing is prolonging his domination by hiring the dominated. Your school administrations know this right SEC? Riiiight?
Posted by thatguy45
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Posted on 11/30/17 at 5:15 pm to
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hire your coaches off of the conquered by Saban short list.

That's the thing though. Les was able to beat Saban, more than once. Sure he was ultimately fired because he couldn't do it later on in his career, but that was a result of loyalty to coordinators and a refusal to change. In spite of that the LSU game was still dangerous for Bama.
If Les was given the correct OC, he could do very well
Posted by Volatile
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Posted on 11/30/17 at 5:19 pm to
I think you’re correct.
Posted by CharlotteSooner
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Posted on 11/30/17 at 5:20 pm to
Les beat Saban early in his career precisely because he came in as an outsider and Saban wasn't accustomed to his tactics. Same with Sumlin. Same with Meyer. There's a lesson to be learned there.

Predictably, Les Miles did the exact same thing he did in the BIG XII after beating Bob twice which was copy exactly what Bob was doing and try to beat Bob at Bob's own game thereby making him Bob's conqueror and the new BMOC of the league. Where do you think Les "Mad Hatter" Miles learned his trickery from? He learned it from the Riverboat Gambler himself. That's the fatal arrogance of Les Miles.
This post was edited on 11/30/17 at 5:23 pm
Posted by Mr Obvious
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Posted on 11/30/17 at 5:27 pm to
I wonder if Les' price is too high with the amount of years and his buyout? He seems like a pretty good option at this point. Anybody else at this point is 95% certain to put the program back another 3-4 years.

Yeah, He made us drink way too much with the X's and O's but Coach O didn't have to rebuild the program. I don't think he would be 9-3 his first year at a place like Texas.

Coach Miles did have a big part with LSU having 3 first rounders in the draft last year that are really solid young men as well.

Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Posted on 11/30/17 at 5:28 pm to
Les turned the down. He doesn’t want to get back into coaching THAT badly.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 11/30/17 at 5:32 pm to
Why doesn't Haslam just hire Hue Jackson?
Posted by LSU GrandDad
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Posted on 11/30/17 at 5:35 pm to
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You are asking tRANT to "seriously" make sense of the most ridiculous, nonsensical coaching search that has ever been conducted.


not by a huge margin. there have been others including Alabama who went through 3 or 4 rejections before getting a yes. firing a HC can be an adventure; it's all about timing. once the first target declines (or backs out) hang on for the drama.
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