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re: Selling our Souls

Posted on 6/16/20 at 9:53 am to
Posted by Jebadeb
Member since Oct 2017
4750 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 9:53 am to
quote:

Like how the entire left whined when Drew Brees voiced his?

Double standard.


Both sides are equally stupid. I won't stop watching the Saints because of what Drew Brees said. I won't stop watching college football for what these players are saying.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 10:07 am to
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How is it going to be destroyed? Most people are not melting snow flakes like you are being.


But we have too many players who are dumbasses like you. Will you go watch a minor league football game? How many of those leagues have survived? DAs like you are not old enough or smart enough to know it is not loyalty to the game why people drive hours on a beautiful fall weekend, it is loyalty to the school or their state.Ironic that is what happened 150+ years ago that generated this mess.
Posted by More&Les
Member since Nov 2012
14684 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 10:12 am to
quote:

more fair treatment


You have identified the problem and I bet you don't even know it....

Fair can not be "more fair" or "less fair" it is either fair or unfair.

BLM is not advocating for All Lives to Matter. They don't want equal treatment. They want to be elevated. They want the right to wear, say or do whatever tf they please AND they want the right to end Mike Gundy's career because he wore a fricking Oan tee-shirt.

BLM wants white people subjugated, as were some of their ancestors, regardless if said white person is even descended from slave owners, its just assumed we all are.

frick a man's character, judge the Craka by the color of his skin. The (perceived) oppressed becomes the actual oppressor.

It's not gonna go down that way but that's the goal
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
24250 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 10:45 am to
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Because the same people decrying athletes for using their platform and saying they should suffer consequences for sharing their voice are the same ones saying Mike Gundy, already a millionaire, shouldn't be taken to task over his politics.


Where did you see me defend Gundy?
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 10:52 am to
quote:

Unfortunately the world is full of dumbasses like this GT POS and others on here, that is why we are where we are today. The players do not realize, there is no College Football without the fans, there is no education for most without CF, and finally there is the reality of good grades and finding a job without the education. The NFL doesn’t survive at the level it is now without CF. They can not support a minor league system to produce enough athletes to field 30 plus NFL teams. Everyone wants to compare it to Baseball and their system, but in BB 98% of the minor league players are there to develop 2% of the stars that will make it to the majors. The NFL couldn't financially do the same. So the Athletes are about to screw themselves in the name of racial justice, by destroying a system that produces racial equality for those who would never see it in their lifetime. Smart.

Name-call all you want

College Coaches used to have to work in off-season selling Cars or insurance to supplement their income back in the 40s thru the 60s, unless you had one of 10 premium Jobs, and even then adjusted for inflation, the money in NO WAY compares to what they make today

Athl Dept Employees in the 40s thru 60s made paltry salaries in comparison to today

Athl Depts funded far fewer Sports back then

Back then they had:

Teams full of Players that studied hard and "represented their University"

Despite all of the above, there was no big money in College Sports

The big Money in College Sports came from 2 distinct factors, the explosion of Cable TV where every household now has 200 channels, AND the emergence of the Minority Athlete

The combination of those 2 factors is why there is so much money in College Sports, not genius HCs like Saban, we had genius HCs similar to Saban in the 40s thru 60s and adjusted for inflation, the money doesn't compare

In the 40s thru the 60s we had Fans, but not the huge economies of scale that we have now

If you really cared about RACIAL EQUALITY, then stop forcing the 2 Sports that are majority Black to finance every other MONEY-LOSING Sport and to spread some of that money around to the Revenue Making Players above their scholly

Question:

Why do YOU say these Athletes will never see racial equality in their lifetimes?

Is that because you know from personal experience that Corp America is racist?

So your idea of "racial equality" is to have these Athletes in FB & MBB at P5 Colleges , get economically taken advantage of for 3-5 yrs in exchange for a bachelor's degree, then after helping coaches to earn $9MM per yr and ADs earn $1.5MM per year, only then can they expect "racial equality"

In summary, the "buy in" for Black Athletes to earn racial equality in America is to make a lot of whites RICH ,and at the same time subsidize a lot college educations for white students in Non-Rev Sports, and then after all those millions goes to others, ONLY THEN do they get racial equality??

Simple question:

Why can't they just be born or naturalized CITIZENS that love America and obey the LAW, why can't that be the only "buy in" for "racial equality" in America?

Why does the Black Athlete have to do so much more than others to get the same "equality" that should be a part of the Social Contract that comes with American Citizenship?
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61607 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 11:08 am to
quote:

Whining about what OP is whining about isn’t one of those things.



Ok



Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 11:26 am to
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You have identified the problem and I bet you don't even know it....

Fair can not be "more fair" or "less fair" it is either fair or unfair.

BLM is not advocating for All Lives to Matter. They don't want equal treatment. They want to be elevated. They want the right to wear, say or do whatever tf they please AND they want the right to end Mike Gundy's career because he wore a fricking Oan tee-shirt.

BLM wants white people subjugated, as were some of their ancestors, regardless if said white person is even descended from slave owners, its just assumed we all are.

frick a man's character, judge the Cracka by the color of his skin. The (perceived) oppressed becomes the actual oppressor.

It's not gonna go down that way but that's the goal

No one wants to subjugate anyone, you miss the lede as many do around here

BLM doesn't want preferential treatment for Blacks, just equal treatment, the idea behind BLM is that's where the current crisis is, and that crisis needs attention

The crisis WRT police and interaction with Blacks is the reason for the name BLM, honestly they probably should have named it BLMA - Black lives matter Also

The name BLM doesn't mean other lives don't matter

p.s. I helped with your spelling above
This post was edited on 6/16/20 at 2:48 pm
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

The big Money in College Sports came from 2 distinct factors, the explosion of Cable TV where every household now has 200 channels, AND the emergence of the Minority Athlete

The combination of those 2 factors is why there is so much money in College Sports, not genius HCs like Saban, we had genius HCs similar to Saban in the 40s thru 60s and adjusted for inflation, the money doesn't compare

In the 40s thru the 60s we had Fans, but not the huge economies of scale that we have now

If you really cared about RACIAL EQUALITY, then stop forcing the 2 Sports that are majority Black to finance every other MONEY-LOSING Sport and to spread some of that money around to the Revenue Making Players above their scholly


There is big time money in CF today, but most of it is put back into the programs and the players. You notice very few programs are showing a profit every year and the profit is minimal compared to the revenue. The biggest difference between CF in the 40s-60s and now is the Schools use Football for marketing the Universities. The big time money is secondary to attracting future students.

quote:

Question:

Why do YOU say these Athletes will never see racial equality in their lifetimes?



Because the majority of them do not have the financial means or the educational background to achieve the benefits of most of their fellow students. They would have have to have good grades to get in the schools, good scores on entrance test, maintain good grades while in school and obtain jobs without the Athletic Dept connections. That may not be fair but that is the reality of the world for most students.

quote:

Is that because you know from personal experience that Corp America is racist?


No, Corporate America is bottom line driven. How many Athletes do you know of have gotten great jobs based on the connections to playing football for a school? That goes away without Football.

quote:

So your idea of "racial equality" is to have these Athletes in FB & MBB at P5 Colleges , get economically taken advantage of for 3-5 yrs in exchange for a bachelor's degree, then after helping coaches to earn $9MM per yr and ADs earn $1.5MM per year, only then can they expect "racial equality"


Welcome to the real world. How many worker do you know that work just as hard to put food on the table for their family so CEO can get rich ? True racial equality occurs when peoples failures in life can only be attributed to personal decisions and personalities, until then we will have people making money and achieving attention of yelling racism.

quote:

Why does the Black Athlete have to do so much more than others to get the same "equality" that should be a part of the Social Contract that comes with American Citizenship?


That may be true for the average Black Citizen, but hasn't been true for the Black Athlete or any Athlete. They are allowed to cut to the front of the line into some elite institutions, they are fed and boarded to the level of VIPs of any institution and they are educated and tutored for success. Tell me what % of any College Student Body that can say the same. And yet they want to bite the hand.


Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
13164 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 12:43 pm to
Yep, these players and really all brainwashed liberals better be careful they get what the wish for because they might well not be happy with the end result.
Posted by TigerNOLAGirl
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2019
719 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 1:21 pm to
Please quote his exact words cuz he didn't say anything remotely close.

So if anyone disagrees with 18-20 yo illiterate uneducated & full of shite players they're a racist?
Good for you.
How very enlightened is your tolerance & open-mindedness.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46452 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 1:41 pm to
quote:

So if anyone disagrees with 18-20 yo illiterate uneducated & full of shite players they're a racist?

Well, when you phrase it like that...
Posted by RoscoeSanCarlos
Member since Oct 2017
1324 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 2:36 pm to
Season ticket sales will not be automatically back filled like they have in the past. You can bet you bottom dollar ticket demand will dramatically drop over the next 5 years because the Baby Boomers will stop buying season tickets. Follow that up with weaker interest and smaller cohort size of the Gen-X crowd, and certainly diminished interest from the Millennials.

Put the head trauma cherry on top, causing a degradation in the talent level and voila... you’ve got a bunch of empty stadiums.

All these collegiate stadiums could eventually look like Rice’s on any given Fall Saturday - big and empty.
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 3:06 pm to
quote:

That may be true for the average Black Citizen, but hasn't been true for the Black Athlete or any Athlete. They are allowed to cut to the front of the line into some elite institutions, they are fed and boarded to the level of VIPs of any institution and they are educated and tutored for success. Tell me what % of any College Student Body that can say the same. And yet they want to bite the hand.

This passage validates my initial guess that you are indeed a friggin idiot

The true sign that an effin' idiot is confused when talking about P5 College Sports is when the damned fool (that would be you) starts comparing "regular Students" that don't generate significant money for the University to Revenue Producing Athletes

Example:

At Texas, Ohio St, and Michigan, 85 FB Players + 13 MBB Players gross almost $200MM per year PLUS millions more in Free Marketing, Advertising and Name Recognition

Comparing that level of economic impact from just 100 scholarship Athletes to "regular students" is beyond asinine

Dude, just admit that you have an agenda and simply don't know what the hell you are talking about

Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 3:14 pm to
You never addressed the non Revenue Sports that are majority white that are allowed to LOSE MONEY FOREVER with no plan in place to ever get to break-even and become self sustaining

Being forced to pay the freight for those socialist arse, welfare arse, non Revenue Sports, is likely what is making all the Revenue Athletes so chatty and opinionated

I mean, I hear non stop crap about socialist this and socialist that , but no one ever directs it at the non Revenue Sports that are Majority white, I wonder why?
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 3:52 pm to
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This passage validates my initial guess that you are indeed a friggin idiot

The true sign that an effin' idiot is confused when talking about P5 College Sports is when the damned fool (that would be you) starts comparing "regular Students" that don't generate significant money for the University to Revenue Producing Athletes

Example:

At Texas, Ohio St, and Michigan, 85 FB Players + 13 MBB Players gross almost $200MM per year PLUS millions more in Free Marketing, Advertising and Name Recognition

Comparing that level of economic impact from just 100 scholarship Athletes to "regular students" is beyond asinine

Dude, just admit that you have an agenda and simply don't know what the hell you are talking about



You are truly a fricking moron. Those Athletes are only a product of the Athletic Dept that gave them that opportunity. What would the market pay if there wasn't CF to showcase those talents ? You think they would be making the same amount if they were a product of a minor league system ? MBB is the exception with the elite players, but you wouldn't have the same revenue for the average players early in their career (only 2 Rounds of the Draft). The economic impact for the school is not based on individual players, it is the marketing of the entire team. Again, where are you getting your education from to come up with a counter argument like this. A High School kid could do a better job. What a moron.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 3:56 pm to
quote:

You never addressed the non Revenue Sports that are majority white that are allowed to LOSE MONEY FOREVER with no plan in place to ever get to break-even and become self sustaining

Being forced to pay the freight for those socialist arse, welfare arse, non Revenue Sports, is likely what is making all the Revenue Athletes so chatty and opinionated

I mean, I hear non stop crap about socialist this and socialist that , but no one ever directs it at the non Revenue Sports that are Majority white, I wonder why?




Again, you proved your ignorance. The non-revenue Sports do not hand out scholarships to the entire team. Most are fielded due to Conference and NCAA requirements. Baseball has only been a product of the Marketing Arm of a school the last 15-20 years. Same with women sports, but title IX is the driving force with them. Get a fricking education before you open your mouth and prove you are a moron.
Posted by buckfammer
Auburn, AL
Member since Dec 2019
1390 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 5:14 pm to
quote:

What a jerk you are!


GFY, race-baiter.

quote:

Floyd never asked to be asphyxiated for 8 mins 46 secs until he was dead


Agreed. And none of those actresses asked Weinstein to slap his cock around their faces.

Passing a counterfeit $20 doesn’t warrant murder, and being present in Harvey Weinsteins hotel room doesn’t warrant rape.

Glad we could agree, Dipshit.
Posted by More&Les
Member since Nov 2012
14684 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 8:01 pm to
quote:


BLM doesn't want preferential treatment for Blacks, just equal treatment, the idea behind BLM is that's where the current crisis is, and that crisis needs attention


Total bullshite. BLM wants laws not enforced against Blacks. BLM wants black people to be graded on a curve.

The crisis is that ANY and EVERY time a black man is killed by a cop (of any race) or a White person (or person that we can pretend is White) then BLM and the MSM pretend its proof that black men are being hunted down and slaughtered en masse AND its bullshite.

Cops killed unarmed 9 Black men in 2019, they killed 19 unarmed whites and they came in contact with Black men twice as many times.

It wasn't a fricking crisis but now you've got BLM and Antifa people burning black owned businesses to the ground, killing black men, sexually assaulting other BLM activists and then killing them, randomly killing cops, including black ones...

In fact, the "peaceful fricking protests" have now killed more black people in two weeks than cops killed in a fricking year...
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