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re: SEC will not get 2 teams in the first playoff
Posted on 10/14/14 at 2:56 pm to skirpnasty
Posted on 10/14/14 at 2:56 pm to skirpnasty
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Let me ask you this. If State wins out, Auburn wins out, and UGA wins out in the regular season. Then UGA beats State in the SECCG. WHAT THE frick HAPPENS?
Auburn and UGA can't both win out in the regular season.
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Posted on 10/14/14 at 3:00 pm to skirpnasty
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Let me ask you this. If State wins out, Auburn wins out, and UGA wins out in the regular season. Then UGA beats State in the SECCG.
WHAT THE frick HAPPENS?
I hate to break it to you, but UGA and AU can't both win out in the regular season...
Posted on 10/14/14 at 3:00 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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We would need Florida State, Notre Dame both to lose
They play each other this week
Posted on 10/14/14 at 3:01 pm to Cheese Grits
2008 Alabama lost the CCG. Its always going to be hard to get in when you lose your last game, especially against another playoff team. An unbeaten team losing the CCG may not even get in.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 3:04 pm to coachcrisp
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I'll go you one better. If Alabama goes unbeaten, and a one loss Ole Miss team wins the SECCG, they'll both go, PLUS if a one loss eastern division champ wins the SECCG against Ole Miss, then they and Alabama will go.
this will ONLY HAPPEN if there are not 3 other teams with 1 loss or less
FWIW - the Egg Bowl loser will look a lot worse to the committee than an 11-1 Oregon, Oklahoma, MI State and Notre Dame - based on their weak OOC schedules
Eight games just won't cut it, not even in the almighty SEC West...
Bama's decision to play WV & AU playing K State give them more of a chance.
Still don't think it will happen, but it gives them a chance...
Posted on 10/14/14 at 3:08 pm to Master of Sinanju
If FSU, ND,any Big Ten team or Big 12 team have 1 loss and get into the final four over a 1 loss SEC west team who lost to an undefeated SEC west team, this would be a travesty....It could happen.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 3:11 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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I don't think any of these only lose one game.
Okay, suppose this is the broader picture
11-1 Baylor, OK State, KS State, Oklahoma, or TCU
12-1 PAC CCG winner
12-1 B1G CCG winner
Looking at several B1G 1 loss teams and their remaining schedules, I can see 1 coasting through with no more losses.
If Washington beats Oregon this weekend and Arizona wins out, 1 will emerge with 1 loss from the PAC CCG.
With no CCG and an extra BYE week each, B12 could have one stay at 1 loss.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 3:11 pm to Cheese Grits
That's a lot of stuff and stuff, but I don't think the committee will go further than,
[Chairman] "Let's vote. Who do you guys like?"
[Committee] "We like teams that will draw the most eyeballs to TV sets."
[Chairman} "Me too. It's decided, we'll take the Pac champs, B1G champs, SEC Champs and Notre Dame."
[Committee] "Didn't FSU beat Notre Dame?"
[Chairman] "Oh yeah, I guess we'll have to take FSU. Who should we drop? Maybe we could have a play-in with the SEC champ and Notre Dame..."
It's a committee, not an algorithm making the selection. Don't overthink it.
[Chairman] "Let's vote. Who do you guys like?"
[Committee] "We like teams that will draw the most eyeballs to TV sets."
[Chairman} "Me too. It's decided, we'll take the Pac champs, B1G champs, SEC Champs and Notre Dame."
[Committee] "Didn't FSU beat Notre Dame?"
[Chairman] "Oh yeah, I guess we'll have to take FSU. Who should we drop? Maybe we could have a play-in with the SEC champ and Notre Dame..."
It's a committee, not an algorithm making the selection. Don't overthink it.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 3:12 pm to dcbl
Let's say Ole Miss wins out and so does Bama.
Bama would have a better shot being 11-1 with an early loss to Ole Miss than a team losing the SECCG.
Yes the SECCG will definitely hurt now that we have a playoff it muddies the water as long as other conferences don't have one.
It's pretty clear though that now that they have established the "big 5" which is a joke since it should really be the big 1, then the next four, then the rest.
They lump the SEC with the other 4 conferences when clearly it's been head and shoulders above for almost a decade now. This version of the playoffs really hurts the SEC and will hopefully lead to quick change once "Big 5" autonomy takes off.
Bama would have a better shot being 11-1 with an early loss to Ole Miss than a team losing the SECCG.
Yes the SECCG will definitely hurt now that we have a playoff it muddies the water as long as other conferences don't have one.
It's pretty clear though that now that they have established the "big 5" which is a joke since it should really be the big 1, then the next four, then the rest.
They lump the SEC with the other 4 conferences when clearly it's been head and shoulders above for almost a decade now. This version of the playoffs really hurts the SEC and will hopefully lead to quick change once "Big 5" autonomy takes off.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 3:16 pm to NotRight37
Any given year, things might get very ugly. All else being equal, the committee will have to emphasize conference championships.
More often than not, the four playoff teams will be four of the five representative champions of the SEC, ACC, PAC 12, Big 10 and Big XII... plus a one-loss or undefeated Notre Dame.
A two-loss Notre Dame will have a very tough time making the tournament.
More often than not, the four playoff teams will be four of the five representative champions of the SEC, ACC, PAC 12, Big 10 and Big XII... plus a one-loss or undefeated Notre Dame.
A two-loss Notre Dame will have a very tough time making the tournament.
This post was edited on 10/14/14 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 10/14/14 at 3:21 pm to Cheese Grits
Meh, 2008 was a very different time. The SEC's dominance hadn't yet been established. Plus it was clear Alabama 2008 were overachievers.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 3:23 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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[Chairman] "Let's vote. Who do you guys like?"
[Committee] "We like teams that will draw the most eyeballs to TV sets."
[Chairman} "Me too. It's decided, we'll take the Pac champs, B1G champs, SEC Champs and Notre Dame."
I think you get it very well!
Posted on 10/14/14 at 3:25 pm to Cheese Grits
The bubble teams will always complain.
The solution is to not leave yourself on the bubble.
Be one of the 3 teams that are locks, not one of the teams scrambling for #4.
The solution is to not leave yourself on the bubble.
Be one of the 3 teams that are locks, not one of the teams scrambling for #4.
This post was edited on 10/14/14 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 10/14/14 at 3:37 pm to IAmReality
That was my observation of this whole thing from when they came out with the idea. It's still better than the BCS, but all it really does is shift the argument from "who is #2 and who is #3" to "who is #4 and who is #5" I think we'll see an expansion of the playoff before long.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 3:41 pm to IAmReality
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Be one of the 3 teams that are locks, not one of the teams scrambling for #4.
I would just say be #1 or #2 as even #3 will become political
Rebs already have a poster to lobby their argument
This post was edited on 10/14/14 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 10/14/14 at 3:49 pm to Cheese Grits
If y'all lose in overtime to Miss St. I wonder how fast you'll swap sides on this argument.
You are basically in favor of a system that penalizes you for playing in a tough conference (and specifically the hardest division in the country).
Imagine how Miss St. will feel if they win out but lose the Egg Bowl, going 3-1 or potentially 4-1 against the top 10, don't win the SEC and watch a team like Mich St. (0-1) against the top 10 get in.
They will have clearly proven their one of the top 2 teams in the country but most likely won't get a shot in a 4 team playoff.
You are basically in favor of a system that penalizes you for playing in a tough conference (and specifically the hardest division in the country).
Imagine how Miss St. will feel if they win out but lose the Egg Bowl, going 3-1 or potentially 4-1 against the top 10, don't win the SEC and watch a team like Mich St. (0-1) against the top 10 get in.
They will have clearly proven their one of the top 2 teams in the country but most likely won't get a shot in a 4 team playoff.
This post was edited on 10/14/14 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 10/14/14 at 3:50 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
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Auburn is the only non conference winner that I see making it in
Why? Their resume is no more impressive than Bama's or Kentucky's.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 3:52 pm to IAmReality
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The bubble teams will always complain.
The solution is to not leave yourself on the bubble.
Be one of the 3 teams that are locks, not one of the teams scrambling for #4.
That's my mindset as well. The SEC will get 2 teams in sometimes but not all the time.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 3:54 pm to Socratics
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That's my mindset as well. The SEC will get 2 teams in sometimes but not all the time.
Imagine that an FSU fan that likes the idea that the ACC gets a basic autobid to the playoff.
Honestly what do you think FSU's record is if they play Miss St's schedule?
Do you feel like they should be left out because they don't play in the Big 12 or the ACC?
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