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SEC Wide Receiver Rankings : OAYP

Posted on 7/8/19 at 11:28 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 11:28 am
2019 SEC WR Rankings : Jim Johnson, Southern Pigskin

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The basic premise is to cross the efficiency measure of the former, but across all positions, with the value principles of the latter -- hopefully as a way of more accurately depicting a given team’s returning production. Returning good players is more valuable than returning only average or subpar players, and not all production is created equal, so this should ideally prove to be more predictive than simply looking at the raw number of returning starters or the percentages of returning production.


1. Jerry Jeudy, Alabama (1.98)
2. Jaylen Waddle, Alabama (1.59)
3. Henry Ruggs, Alabama (1.31)
4. Devonta Smith, Alabama (0.91)
5. Bryan Edwards, South Carolina (0.54)
6. Van Jefferson, Florida (0.51)
7. Justin Jefferson, LSU (0.38)
8. Marquez Callaway, Tennessee (0.32)
9. Shi Smith, South Carolina (0.23)
10. Josh Hammond, Florida (0.22)
11. Jauan Jennings, Tennessee (0.2)
12. Jalen Knox, Missouri (0.13)
13. Quartney Davis, Texas A&M (-0.12)
14. Camron Buckley, Texas A&M (-0.34)
15. Anthony Schwartz, Auburn (-0.36)
16. Johnathan Johnson, Missouri (-0.46)
17. CJ Bolar, Vanderbilt (-0.48)
18. Jhamon Ausbon, Texas A&M (-0.97)
19. Eli Stove (‘17), Auburn (-1.04)
20. Kalija Lipscomb, Vanderbilt (-1.05)
21. Lynn Bowden, Kentucky (-1.14)
22. Elijah Moore, Ole Miss (-1.15)
23. Kadarius Toney, Florida (-1.18)
Posted by vuvuzela
Oregon
Member since Jun 2010
14663 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 11:30 am to
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1. Jerry Jeudy, Alabama (1.98)
2. Jaylen Waddle, Alabama (1.59)
3. Henry Ruggs, Alabama (1.31)
4. Devonta Smith, Alabama (0.91)


stacked.
Posted by SmokeTide
Gulf Coast Alabama
Member since Nov 2015
5287 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 11:30 am to
Can we take the moniker? "Nasty Wide Receivers"
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 11:31 am to
quote:

quote:

1. Jerry Jeudy, Alabama (1.98)
2. Jaylen Waddle, Alabama (1.59)
3. Henry Ruggs, Alabama (1.31)
4. Devonta Smith, Alabama (0.91)



stacked.

Holy shite.



Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37613 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 11:38 am to
Damn Bama is stacked. Best WR Corp in the nation.

I hope our secondary is ready and that we can get some pressure on Tua.

I still like our WRs a lot though. We’ve got a good group beyond just Edwards and Shi. Especially if O’Tre can come on this year, and Dawkins.
Posted by BoerneAg
Hill Country, God's Country
Member since Apr 2019
2329 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 11:42 am to
I expect Kendrick Rogers to be a very good receiver this year. He was injured most of last season, but had huge games against Clemson and LSU.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
21935 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 11:43 am to
If Kendrick Rogers could learn consistency, A&M's WR corps becomes MUCH better
Posted by Zou brownmajic
Member since Sep 2013
3470 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 11:51 am to
What would Saban do with Mizzou, Vandy and Kentucky talent compared to all the 4-5* players that he get's to work with every year?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 11:52 am to
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What would Saban do with Mizzou, Vandy and Kentucky talent compared to all the 4-5* players that he get's to work with every year?




He went 12-0 in the regular season and lost to one of the greatest teams of all time in the SEC Championship game in 2008 with a roster made up of basically 3-star Shula recruits and a sprinkling of elite true freshmen.

Defense
Bobby Greenwood - 3 star
Terrence Cody - 3 star
Brandon Deaderick - low 4 star
Corey Reamer - 3 star
Rolando McClain - 4 star
Dont'a Hightower - 4 star (true freshman)
Javier Arenas - 2 star
Kareem Jackson - 3 star
Rashad Johnson - 0 star walk on
Justin Woodall - 4 star

Offense
Andre Smith - 5 star
Mike Johnson - 2 star
Antoine Caldwell - 4 star
Marlon Davis - 3 star
Drew Davis - 2 star
Nick Walker - 3 star
John Parker Wilson - 3 star
Mike McCoy - low 4 star
Julio Jones - 5 star (true freshman)
Marquis Maze - 3 star
Glen Coffee - low 4 star


So, I'm guessing he'd do ok.
This post was edited on 7/8/19 at 11:55 am
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
7319 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 11:59 am to
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23. Kadarius Toney, Florida (-1.18)


Only had 46 touches last year and averaged > 10 ypc both rushing and receiving.

If he can (1) stay healthy (2) stay out of the dog house and (3) continue picking up the playbook, he could put up some monster numbers - dude regularly made SEC defenders look silly, but he is still slight and too used to freelancing with the ball in his hands.

Put him on the Harvin supplement plan and dump it to him in the slot 10 times a game and he could put up 1500 all purpose yards.

I expect major disappointment though. Seen too many players just never take that next step.
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
3941 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

2008
That was a great season for him but to be fair...the West was garbage that year ans the only team they played other than Florida that was any good was an overrated af Georgia. I guess Ole Miss may have been decent?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 12:04 pm to
quote:

That was a great season for him but to be fair...the West was garbage that year ans the only team they played other than Florida that was any good was an overrated af Georgia. I guess Ole Miss may have been decent?


It wasn't our best team ever or anything, but he went 12-2 and won the West with basically Mike Shula's team and his first full recruiting class as true freshman. If they had a "team talent" ranking that year like they do on 247 now there is no way that bunch (especially if you are just looking at starters) breaks the Top 15.

The 2009 team had much of the same starting lineup as well, FWIW. He took 2 and 3 stars plus young elite talent and went 26-2 in 2008/2009 and won a SEC title and National Title (all while having an absolutely stacked Florida team to contend with in Atlanta both years).
This post was edited on 7/8/19 at 12:06 pm
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 12:14 pm to
quote:

Wide Receiver Rankings

[... walks back out of the room]

We've got some talent at the position, but none of it is returning. Going to be an interesting year for sure.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

What would Saban do with Mizzou, Vandy and Kentucky talent compared to all the 4-5* players that he get's to work with every year?



That first year he wouldn’t win the title
But just being Nick Saban. He’d easily recruit said players to those teams
Saban has built himself up already.
The talent will follow where he goes
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
52685 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 2:04 pm to
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23. Kadarius Toney, Florida (-1.18)


This guy is a ton of fun to watch with the ball in his hands.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86467 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

That first year he wouldn’t win the title
But just being Nick Saban. He’d easily recruit said players to those teams
Saban has built himself up already.
The talent will follow where he goes


I strongly disagree with this. He is the best coach and likely best recruiter that has ever existed in CFB, so let me get that out of the way. But he succeeded bigly first at football factory LSU and then went to the stratosphere at the greatest CFB program of all time where you'd have to basically be incompetent to not win. If saban were at missouri or UK or Vandy as the other poster mentioned, I have ZERO DOUBT he would improve them, likely within 1 year, and of course drastically improve their recruiting.

But those are still lower tier programs. To think he would have missouri doing the same thing he did at LSU or bama is simply fantasy, IMO.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 2:58 pm to
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But those are still lower tier programs. To think he would have missouri doing the same thing he did at LSU or bama is simply fantasy, IMO.




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