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re: SEC Town Growth Rates this decade

Posted on 7/28/18 at 11:08 pm to
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 7/28/18 at 11:08 pm to
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I will never understand the town’s reputation among the locals as some sort of gastronomic hub


It's almost entirely a fabrication by John T. Edge and his need for a "local food scene" to make his SFA a little less ridiculous. Oxford is a state of mind, and that mind-state is heavy on delusion.
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 8:20 am to
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Since when? Raleigh/Durham/Chapel Hill is in a combined statistical area, and was considered a metropolitan area 15 years ago.


The two were split back in 2003 into two separate metro areas. Yes, they are combined into one "Combined Statistical Area" but that is not level I used for the data in the OP.

So as I've said several times now, Raleigh and Durham are two separate MSAs.
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 8:21 am to
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I like Birmingham, but it is getting left in the dust by Huntsville.


This has got to be a joke, right?
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 8:22 am to
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This thread is surprising in that it demonstrates how many people don't understand what metropolitan areas are, and how census figures are compiled.


Thank you. Yes, its been eye-opening.
Posted by SAINTS0321
Member since Jan 2016
3963 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 9:50 am to
These pops are a 5 county radius
Posted by NDonahue
Member since Apr 2016
1053 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 9:58 am to
Yay more pretentious yanks and Californians moving here to tell us how backward and stupid we all are.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17776 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 10:12 am to
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SheaForHeisman



It's obvious from your name that you are joking



But Oxford came in 4th place as Best Place to Live, Behind Starkville, Madison, and Laurel. Congrats
Posted by roger79
Welcome Home, Scott
Member since Dec 2012
3226 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 11:44 am to
I'd be glad to see Baton Rouge stop growing. Too many people who can't drive and too much crime already. We don't need more. It's one reason I live in the suburbs.
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 11:53 am to
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I'd be glad to see Baton Rouge stop growing.


You've pretty much gotten your wish. While Baton Rouge is up sine 2010,the census estimates it lost population last year:

Baton Rouge MSA population estimates by year:

2010: 804,359
2016: 835,596
2017: 834,159

... an estimated loss of just over 1,400 people between 2016 and 2017.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
25041 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 12:03 pm to
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I had no idea Starkville was that small. What a shithole




This has probably already been stated, but Starkville is bigger than Oxford.
Posted by athens-ga
athens, ga
Member since Jun 2013
1298 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 12:17 pm to
All I know is we live in-town in Athens and our property value has increased 100K in three years...keep growing SEC towns!
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14119 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:41 pm to
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So as I've said several times now, Raleigh and Durham are two separate MSAs.



This would be essentially like splitting Nashville and Murfreesboro into two separate metros.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14119 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 2:06 pm to
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This has probably already been stated, but Starkville is bigger than Oxford.



Starkville is a larger city than Oxford.

Lafayette County is larger than Oktibbeha County.

Starkville is part of the Golden Triangle along with West Point, and Columbus. Which is 75-80K combined in a 25 mile radius.
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 2:16 pm to
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This would be essentially like splitting Nashville and Murfreesboro into two separate metros.


Actually no, it wouldn't. Because if it was, the Census would have made that split. They don't combine/split metros willy nilly. It's based on commuting habits of various counties.

According to the latest numbers, nearly 32% of workers in Rutherford County, TN (Murfreesboro) commute into the other counties included in the Nashville MSA.

As for Durham County, NC (Durham), only 14.9% of workers commute into the Raleigh-Cary MSA.... not enough to warrant combining Durham County into the Raleigh metro. Typically I believe its around 25% that warrants including a county into a different MSA.

Give it up.
Posted by JacksonCPAdawg
Member since Jun 2013
144 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 4:56 pm to
Dude you need to calm down and have an alcoholic beverage or something jeez
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 5:03 pm to
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quote:
I like Birmingham, but it is getting left in the dust by Huntsville.


This has got to be a joke, right?


No, just the truth. Just look at what companies are coming to Huntsville vs any new ones coming to Birmingham. I do not have a dog in the fight, but I know both cities very well.
This post was edited on 7/30/18 at 5:05 pm
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 5:04 pm to
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Dude you need to calm down and have an alcoholic beverage or something jeez



Don't know why you think I'm not calm. Your fellow MSU posters however seem to like to spew crap that has zero factual basis. I mean if you are going to make an argument, at least have some facts to back it up other than just your ignorant guess about something.
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 5:09 pm to
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No, just the truth. Just look at what companies are coming to Huntsville vs any new ones coming to Birmingham.


Yes, that's already been established. Huntsville is growing faster than Birmingham. But adding an extra 2,300 people more than Birmingham each year is not going to make up for a population deficit of over 650,000.

Austin, TX is the fastest growing major metro in the US... and has been for sometime. But guess what, its never going to catch Dallas or Houston. It just won't. Too much of a gap in between to ever catch up.

The same goes for Huntsville compared to Birmingham. A metro of 450,000 people is just not going to suddenly overtake one that has well over 1.1 million people. It just doesn't work that way.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 5:25 pm to
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Yes, that's already been established. Huntsville is growing faster than Birmingham. But adding an extra 2,300 people more than Birmingham each year is not going to make up for a population deficit of over 650,000.

Austin, TX is the fastest growing major metro in the US... and has been for sometime. But guess what, its never going to catch Dallas or Houston. It just won't. Too much of a gap in between to ever catch up.

The same goes for Huntsville compared to Birmingham. A metro of 450,000 people is just not going to suddenly overtake one that has well over 1.1 million people. It just doesn't work that way.




It is not just growth, it is how they are growing. Those companies have sustainability compared to Banking and medical. I will go with what the experts think and what I have seen first hand:

LINK

P.S They just consider Limestone and Madison Co as Metro Hunstville (compared to 10 for BHM to include Talladega )
This post was edited on 7/30/18 at 5:55 pm
Posted by Drebin
Member since Aug 2017
4446 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 5:54 pm to
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Don't know why you think I'm not calm. Your fellow MSU posters however seem to like to spew crap that has zero factual basis. I mean if you are going to make an argument, at least have some facts to back it up other than just your ignorant guess about something.



I have given you facts that you choose to ignore because they don't jive with your numbers and some arbitrary rules that apply specifically to the US Census, and have little to do with the actual landscape of the areas being discussed. I mean, in this thread, you are all over the map. You're counting suburbs in adjacent counties to support your arguments of Birmingham vs. Huntsville, but in the same thread you are saying the Golden Triangle region is fictitious and Starkville can't claim Columbus and West Point because they are in different counties. You either need to do one of two things:

1. Apply some common sense
2. Let this god-forsaken thread die
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