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Posted on 9/25/12 at 7:12 pm to MontyFranklyn
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He is a great representative of the black community
he's just a great representative of what good parents who preach hard work & ethics and good mentors who care can inspire in a kid.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 7:14 pm to BamaScoop
quote:I agree
He would have won somewhere like Alabama. MSU is not a good measuring stick for a head coach because it is a flop of a program.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 7:14 pm to pivey14
Torbush?
But, Mullen did correct that one very quickly.
But, Mullen did correct that one very quickly.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 7:14 pm to pivey14
No interviews with Pegues or Dixon...man I feel like both those guys were with Croom at MSU for 16 years.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 7:15 pm to pivey14
Truth be told, I don't know enough (anything) about his hires to comment.
But give him time. If he hasn't already done so, his personnel bed will, at some point, be the resting place for a piece of shite coach. ;)
But give him time. If he hasn't already done so, his personnel bed will, at some point, be the resting place for a piece of shite coach. ;)
Posted on 9/25/12 at 7:19 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
I wish he would have beaten Alabama one more time to make three so he could claim a victory for each time they rejected him.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 7:21 pm to RebelWriter
Like I said earlier, he was about to be named Alabama's head coach, then Jesse Jackson ran his mouth.
Jackson is the sole reason Bama didn't hire him.
Jackson is the sole reason Bama didn't hire him.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 7:31 pm to genro
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The board had decided on Croom. Then Jesse comes down and demands that we hire him or we're all a bunch of racists. The board then decided it wasn't going to appear to be pushed around by race-baiters, and went with Shula.
True story.
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His initial impression of the interview with Alabama was that it was fair and was so positive that he considered himself to be the lead candidate afterwards, which was why he was so surprised when the offer was given to Shula, a coach with over ten fewer years of coaching experience. Afterwards the Rev. Jesse Jackson got involved, calling for an investigation into the hiring practices at Alabama and all SEC schools.
You sure?
Posted on 9/25/12 at 7:38 pm to BamaScoop
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He would have won somewhere like Alabama. MSU is not a good measuring stick for a head coach because it is a flop of a program.
No, he wouldn't have. People act like he had "no choice" but to kick off THIRTY FIVE scholarship players when he got here. Really? Jackie left him with a bunch of talent, which he subsequently kicked off the team and set himself back many years. I'm not doubting that they were thugs, but a truly excellent coach would have gotten those players to "buy in" rather than running them off en masse. Look at Hugh Freeze at Ole Miss for reference of how to accomplish this(he walked into a VERY similar situation). I can also just imagine how the "well you will never win here, but you can build a foundation" line went in recruiting. Houston Nutt no doubt appreciates it. Jackie left Croom with the Scout/Rivals #17/17 and #20/#9 in 2002 and 2003.
He could have been a success as a head coach if he would have been a little less proud and a little more flexible in his ways. The failure to fire Woody McCorvey as OC is what actually cost him his job in the end.
Scoring offense:
2004 - 114(t) of 117
2005 - 113 of 117
2006 - 97 of 119
2007 - 96 of 119
2008 - 115 of 119
The stadium was expanded to current capacity in 2002. Croom sold it out once, the Alabama game in 2007. Dan Mullen did not sell it out for his first 4 games, but has sold out every single one since. That is 19 straight sellouts for those counting at home. Fundraising in our athletics department quadrupled basically overnight from Croom to Mullen.
No doubt Croom was a great man and a good representative for our university and a good reflection for who Mississippi State has always been. We integrated peacefully, broke the "law" and snuck out of state in the middle of the night to compete against all black Loyola in the NCAA tourney the same year the race riots happened at Ole Miss, etc...He was just never an SEC head coach.
I have still never gotten over the fact that Jimbo Fisher campaigned MIGHTILY for the job at the time and Gary Patterson also wanted it badly. Patterson was never even granted an interview. Common sense says that MSU would have been much, much better off with either. Could you imagine how good a fit Patterson would have been at MSU, which is a very similar situation to TCU(few blue chip recruits, relies on development, plays defense-first football, etc), nevermind his loyalty for getting the chance at TCU has been unwavering. Would have been the same at MSU most likely...
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Posted on 9/25/12 at 7:42 pm to genro
nvm
This post was edited on 9/25/12 at 7:43 pm
Posted on 9/25/12 at 7:44 pm to EKG
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Find me a coach who hasn't shite the bed with a hire.
Mullen shat the bed with Torbush as his first year DC, but he corrected it after that one year as well(with Manny Diaz).
I also saw Mirando as a huge mistake promotion, which it clearly was. Especially when you replace him with someone like Brewster.
One thing about Mullen is he goes outside his "bubble" in practically ever hire. He goes after the best and brightest nationally, even pulling guys with obvious loyalties to other programs(Wilson to OU and Collins to Bama to name a few). Been by FAR the best MSU coach ever on hiring assistants.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 7:49 pm to engie
I'm not going to ever watch this because I'm not a sadist.
I lived it once. I don't need to relive it.
I lived it once. I don't need to relive it.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 7:55 pm to Slippery Slope
Sherril's last year and 4 years of getting Croomed weekly were more than enough for me during my college years
frick you Croom
frick you Croom
Posted on 9/25/12 at 8:07 pm to schlow mo
Sylvester Croom was a great role model for people if you want your role model to constantly blame others for your failures, complain about everything, be stubborn as shite, be comically lazy, and accept mediocrity.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 8:16 pm to genro
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He would've been Bama's coach instead of Shula if not for Jesse Jackson.
The board had decided on Croom. Then Jesse comes down and demands that we hire him or we're all a bunch of racists. The board then decided it wasn't going to appear to be pushed around by race-baiters, and went with Shula.
True story.
You do not honestly believe that.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 8:16 pm to schlow mo
Great man, overmatched head coach
Posted on 9/25/12 at 8:19 pm to BamaScoop
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He would have won somewhere like Alabama. MSU is not a good measuring stick for a head coach because it is a flop of a program.
OK then. Hire his arse when Saban retires. He's all yours. Make aure he brings Woody Mack with him and have your golf carts ready
Posted on 9/25/12 at 8:22 pm to TT9
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Posted by TT9 quote: He would have won somewhere like Alabama. MSU is not a good measuring stick for a head coach because it is a flop of a program. I agree
Mullen says hello. Took crooms disgrace of a team in 2009 with the #1 SOS and was 6inches from bowling.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 8:24 pm to EKG
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Truth be told, I don't know enough (anything) about his hires to comment. But give him time. If he hasn't already done so, his personnel bed will, at some point, be the resting place for a piece of shite coach. ;)
Manny Diaz was such a piece of shite coach. I can't believe Texas doubled his salary to take over Boom's fricked up defense.
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