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Posted by AUFan2015
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Posted on 6/25/19 at 8:54 pm to
AZ won the basketball natty for the 1996-97 season. The national championship isn't played until the next year in April like always. So yes AZ won the natty for the 1996 season. LINK Kentucky won for the 1997 season LINK
Posted by AUFan2015
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Posted on 6/25/19 at 8:56 pm to
The link you gave was for the 1995 season not the 1996 season
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 6/25/19 at 8:59 pm to
quote:

The link you gave was for the 1995 season not the 1996 season

Gosh dammit stop. You're wrong. Please.

Here ....

LINK: https://www.ncaa.com/history/basketball-men/d1

1999 Connecticut (34-2) Jim Calhoun 77-74 Duke St. Petersburg, Fla.
1998 Kentucky (35-4) Tubby Smith 78-69 Utah San Antonio, Texas
1997 Arizona (25-9) Lute Olson 84-79 (OT) Kentucky Indianapolis, Ind.
1996 Kentucky (34-2) Rick Pitino 76-67 Syracuse East Rutherford, N.J.
1995 UCLA (31-2) Jim Harrick 89-78 Arkansas Seattle, Wash.
1994 Arkansas (31-3) Nolan Richardson 76-72 Duke Charlotte, N.C.
This post was edited on 6/25/19 at 9:26 pm
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:10 pm to
quote:

Surprised no one has mentioned men’s golf in this thread. SEC has had a pretty good run past 20 years with 7 NCs. Thought ACC would do well in the Country Club sports but not so much.

Forgot about golf.

Virginia has done well in men's tennis, UGA has won a couple.

Florida, Vandy and Georgia have all won women's titles. Florida several.

It's all pretty neat when you start breaking it down and showing some conference pride.

There is a lot more to D1 college sports than just the big 3 men's sports.

Posted by AUFan2015
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Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:12 pm to
How am I wrong? Did you even bother looking at the seasons that were given? The 1994 season basketball championship is played in 1995, 1996 season is played in 1997, 1997 season is played in 1998, etc. Same for football.

The name of it is 1996 ncaa national championship game because that's the year that it was played but it's for the 1995-96 season.

Just like in football the national championship is for example the 2013 season National championship in football is called 2014 BCS National championship game but it's for the 2013 season not the 2014 season.

Same in basketball it may be called the 1996 ncaa men's basketball national championship because that's the year it was played but it isn't for the 1996 season it's for the 1995 season which ended in 1996.
This post was edited on 6/25/19 at 9:24 pm
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:25 pm to
Ok, lemme again refer you to the official NCAA title page above.

See Kentucky?

What year does it say beside their name? What year, according to the official NCAA site, does it say Kentucky won the D1 men's basketball national championship? (Or just ask some of the Cat fans around here.)

LSU won baseball that season and Florida won football.

The SEC swept in 1996 plus Tennessee women won the women's basketball championship.

It was a big deal at the time, trust me.

Anyways, think about it and thanks for putting in all the work on your list. I get stuff wrong all the time friend.

Posted by AUFan2015
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Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:29 pm to
Do you think the 2014 BCS National championship game is for the 2014 season? It's not it's for the 2013 season.

Likewise the 1996 men's basketball national championship shows Kentucky but that's for the 1995 season not the 1996 season. The national championship for the 1996 season is called the 1997 ncaa men's basketball national championship.

Thanks I try. I'm not much of a sports fan outside auburn sports. But no one had really answered the OP's question so I thought I'd look it up.

I'm not mad about someone saying I got something wrong if I'm wrong I'll change it but I definitely wasn't wrong about that .

it's confusing I know but the football and basketball nattys aren't played until the next year not the same year as the regular season.

So the 1996 basketball championship game is called the 1997 National championship because that's the year it's played. Likewise the 2014 bcs championship in football is for the 2013 season not the 2014 one.

Another example the basketball championship that just ended in April is called the 2019 ncaa men's basketball national championship but it's for the 2018 season not the 2019 season.

Am I making more sense now?
This post was edited on 6/25/19 at 9:40 pm
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:40 pm to
I'll try one more time ... this straight from KY basketball wiki. LINK

quote:

The Untouchables and Championship Number Six (1996)

Starting in 1996, Kentucky would put together a string of Final Fours with help from 9 future NBA players. The "Untouchables" as they were nicknamed, would only lose twice, to Final Four bound UMass Minutemen (coached by current Kentucky coach John Calipari) and Mississippi State. It was with their overwhelming talent and chemistry that would win Kentucky their sixth national title in the 1996 NCAA Tournament, Kentucky's first NCAA championship in 18 years.

The Unbelievables (1997)

The following year, Pitino's Kentucky team made it back to the national title game, losing to Arizona in overtime in the finals of the 1997 NCAA Tournament. Pitino's fast-paced teams at Kentucky were favorites of the school's fans. It was primarily at Kentucky where he implemented his signature style of full-court pressure defense. By the end of the Pitino era, Kentucky went from banned from the post season to going to three of the last five Final Fours and five of the last six Elite Eights. For this the 1997 team was dubbed the "Unbelievables" for taking a team that was not expected much of to return the Wildcats back to the championship game for a second time.
Posted by AUFan2015
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Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:53 pm to
I'll try one more time as well but it seems neither of us will be on the same page so we'll agree to disagree.

The 1997 basketball championship/tournament is for the 1996 season which ended in 1997 that's why it's called the 1997 ncaa men's basketball national championship/tournament.

Kentucky lost to AZ 84-79 making AZ national champions for the 1996 season. LINK

Kentucky won the 1996 men's basketball national championship beating Syracuse 76-67 to become champions for the 1995 season not the 1996 season. LINK

Like I said before the national championship isn't played the same year the season begins. Only baseball and softball are like that.

Virginia won the 2019 men's basketball national championship beating Texas Tech 85-77 in overtime becoming champions for the 2018 season not the 2019 season.
This post was edited on 6/25/19 at 9:56 pm
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:55 pm to
Dude ... seriously?

Where are Cheese and 8BigBlueTitties when you need them?

Will someone please help to educate this young man?
This post was edited on 6/25/19 at 10:00 pm
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 6/25/19 at 10:01 pm to
quote:

AZ won the basketball natty not Kentucky


The infamous "give the game to Lute before he retired" game



UK had 29 PF to 16 for AZ

Turner was getting mugged every time up the floor and foul were not called yet he fouled out. Simon and Bibby had 1 foul each. F*ck the NCAA for being hell bent not to get UK the 3peat

This post was edited on 6/25/19 at 10:03 pm
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 6/25/19 at 10:04 pm to
Cheese ... that is not the answer to the question darnit.

Did Kentucky win the national title in 96 or 97?

Stay focused.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 6/25/19 at 10:05 pm to
1996 UK won with Rick

1997 AZ won won with the zebras

1998 UK won with Tubby
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 6/25/19 at 10:07 pm to
Thank you.

Now, prepare for this young man to tell you you are wrong.
Posted by tWildcat
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Posted on 6/25/19 at 10:18 pm to
This, our 3 most recent championships are in 1996, 1998 and 2012.
Posted by AUFan2015
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Posted on 6/25/19 at 10:23 pm to
I'm not going to say they're wrong because they are indeed correct 96 is the year they won the national championship game, but it was for the 1995 season not the 1996 season.

AZ won the national championship in 1997 but it was for the 1996 season.

My reply to op wasn't the year they won those championships in rather what season they counted toward.

Like I said we'll agree to disagree
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 6/25/19 at 10:27 pm to
You do know basketball straddles years so both are included but the NCAA is for the latter half

1995 - 1996 season is considered 1996
1996 - 1997 season is considered 1997
1997 - 1998 season is considered 1998

HTH
Posted by AUFan2015
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Posted on 6/25/19 at 10:31 pm to
I know that's what I said in one of my replies to scrooster. Kentucky was national champions for the 1995-96 season so I counted that for 1995. AZ was the champion for the 1996-97 season so I counted that toward the 1996 season, etc. scrooster had an issue with me doing that though .
Posted by AUFan2015
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Posted on 6/25/19 at 10:35 pm to
Here's my reply that scrooster has an issue with. I have the 1995-96 national champions for the 1995 season which is Kentucky.

1996-97 is AZ which I counted toward 1996.

1997-98 is Kentucky which I counted for 1997, etc.

quote:

According to Wikipedia here are the seasons this has happened 

( starting with 1993 season) 

1994- Nebraska won the football natty beating Miami 24-17 LINK 

UCLA won the basketball natty beating Arkansas 89-78 LINK 

Oklahoma won the baseball natty beating Georgia Tech 13-5 LINK 

1999- Florida St beat Virginia Tech 46-29 to win the football natty LINK 

Miami beat Florida St 6-5 to win baseball natty LINK 

Michigan State beat Florida 89-76 to win basketball natty LINK 

2001- Miami beat Nebraska 37-14 to win the football natty LINK 

Miami beat Stanford 12-1 to win baseball natty LINK 

Maryland beat Indiana 64-52 to win the basketball natty LINK 

2002- Ohio State beat Miami 31-24 to win football natty LINK 

Syracuse beat Kansas 81-78 to win basketball nattyLINK 

Texas beat South Carolina 12-6 to win baseball nattyLINK 

2004- USC beat Oklahoma 55-19 to win the football natty ( later vacated) LINK 

North Carolina beat Louisville 75-70 to win basketball natty LINK 

Cal State Fullerton beat Texas to win the baseball natty LINK 

2013- UCLA swept Mississippi State to win the baseball natty LINK 

Florida St beat Auburn 34-31 to win football nattyLINK 

UCONN beat Kentucky 60-54 to win basketball nattyLINK 

2016- Clemson beat Alabama 35-31 to win football natty LINK 

North Carolina beat Gonzaga 71-65 to win basketball natty LINK 

Coastal Carolina beat Arizona 5-4 in game 2 and 4-3 in game 3 to win baseball natty LINK 


Years SEC won a championship in one or more of the "Big 3" sports 

1993- LSU won baseball natty ( beating Wichita State 8-0) LINK 

Arkansas won basketball natty ( beat Duke 76-72)LINK 

1995- Kentucky won the basketball natty beating Syracuse 76-67 LINK 

1996- LSU beat Miami 9-8 to win baseball natty LINK 

Florida beat Florida St 52-20 to win football nattyLINK 


1997- Kentucky beat Utah 78-69 to win basketball natty LINK 

LSU beat Alabama 13-6 to win baseball natty LINK 

1998- Tennessee beat Florida St 23-16 to win football natty LINK 

2000- LSU beat Stanford 6-5 to win baseball nattyLINK 

2003- LSU beat Oklahoma 21-14 to win the football natty LINK 

2005- Florida beat UCLA 73-57 to win basketball natty LINK 

2006- Florida beat Ohio State 84-75 to win basketball natty LINK 

Florida beat Ohio State 41-14 to win football nattyLINK 

2007- LSU beat Ohio State 38-24 to win football nattyLINK 

2008- Florida beat Oklahoma 24-14 to win football natty LINK 

2009- Alabama beat Texas 37-21 to win football natty LINK 

LSU beat Texas 11-4 to win baseball natty LINK 

2010- Auburn beat Oregon 22-19 to win football nattyLINK 

South Carolina beat UCLA 7-1 in game 1 and 2-1(in 11 innings) in game 2 to win baseball natty LINK 

2011- Alabama beat LSU 21-0 to win football nattyLINK 

South Carolina beat Florida 2-1 in game 1 and 5-2 in game 2 to win baseball natty LINK 

Kentucky beat Kansas 67-59 to win basketball nattyLINK 

2012- Alabama beat Notre Dame 42-14 to win football natty LINK 

2014- Vanderbilt beat Virginia 9-8 in game 1 and 3-2 in game 3 to win baseball natty LINK 

2015- Alabama beat Clemson 45-40 to win football natty LINK 


2017- Alabama beat Georgia 26-23 to win football natty LINK 

Florida beat LSU 4-3 in game 1 and 6-1 in game 2 to win baseball natty LINK 


Posted by yatesdog38
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Posted on 6/25/19 at 10:36 pm to
Baseketball doesn't follow the normal tournament routes. They go by a point system like soccer and then they do a round robin and finally best of 5. That's what makes baseketball so great. Literally the best of both worlds

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