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re: SEC planning to bring back regular testing and mask protocols

Posted on 7/20/21 at 11:16 pm to
Posted by C W
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Posted on 7/20/21 at 11:16 pm to
This may have started as a football thread but that didn’t last long
Posted by Golfer1
Naples, FL
Member since Jan 2021
4657 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 11:17 pm to
Everyone is a doctor these days due to Google

How many deaths have been caused by the COVID Vaccine?
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53455 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 11:19 pm to
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For those reading his/her suggestions please google conspiracy theories concerning vaccine.



Yes yes. PLEASE GOOGLE IT!!!

Headline:

Blood clots as prevalent with Pfizer and Moderna vaccine as with AstraZeneca's: study

A study by Oxford University (a crappy school right...)

quote:

A study by Oxford University found the number of people who receive blood clots after getting vaccinated with a coronavirus vaccine are about the same for those who get Pfizer PFE, and Moderna MRNA, vaccines as they are for the AstraZeneca AZN, vaccine that was produced with the university's help.

AstraZeneca's vaccine use has been halted or limited in many countries on blood clot concerns.




LINK

Now, that's not the only study.

You need more?
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22656 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 11:21 pm to
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How many deaths have been caused by the COVID Vaccine?


The number I just saw was a little over 5k. I think that was as of 2 months ago.

But as someone else pointed out, they don't know for sure if all those deaths are directly because of the vaccine, it's hard to tell.

Which is funny because just yesterday the same person was defending covid death counting...which does the exact same thing.

Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53455 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 11:22 pm to
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This may have started as a football thread but that didn’t last long


It should be. These are healthy young men that we are going to force to take a shot that research is starting to show horrible effects and long term major issues.

They are not at risk. There are other meds.

So why are we ignoring science?
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53455 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 11:25 pm to
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The number I just saw was a little over 5k. I think that was as of 2 months ago.

But as someone else pointed out, they don't know for sure if all those deaths are directly because of the vaccine, it's hard to tell.

Which is funny because just yesterday the same person was defending covid death counting...which does the exact same thing.




Yes the VAERS system is at 11,400.

Yes, it will take time to get those numbers qualified.

Just remember, it only took 54 deaths to end the swine flu vaccine. And tell me... Where did the swine flu go.


Posted by GerryDiNardo
Bringing Back The Magic!
Member since Mar 2004
5562 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 11:27 pm to
Per your info, 1 in 250k get blood clots from the vaccine but 1 in 25k get blood clots from getting the virus? Seems like a no brainer to me. We’ve been arguing all along that myocarditis, which was why the Big 10 wanted to cancel last season, was dramatically overplayed. Seems it’s way better to get vaccinated.
Posted by Golfer1
Naples, FL
Member since Jan 2021
4657 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 11:28 pm to
So about .00003 of people that get the vaccine have died and they can’t even trace most of those to the vaccine. I’m sure most of those 5k had some medical issues they didn’t disclose before taking the vaccine

Don’t trust the Google doctors. Go talk to your family doctor. They are better than Google doctors
Posted by TN Dawg2
Knoxville
Member since Jun 2021
529 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 11:28 pm to
It's really weird that we can discuss the medical side effects of alternate treatments like HCQ/Zinc and Ivermectin, but not discuss the side effects of the vaccines.

At least drugs like HCQ and Ivermectin have been being prescribed for decades and have been studied thoroughly through millions and millions of prescriptions and numerous studies both long term and short term and in randomized trials and shown to be generally harmless.

And yet the discussion of the side effects from their use were grossly exaggerated and they scared doctors off of their use.

And yet if you discuss the side effects of the vaccines, you are accused of spreading misinformation and killing people. It defies logic.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22656 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 11:39 pm to
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So about .00003 of people that get the vaccine have died and they can’t even trace most of those to the vaccine. I’m sure most of those 5k had some medical issues they didn’t disclose before taking the vaccine



I for the most part agree that the real number of deaths in that group caused by the vaccine is likely less.

In fact, I thought that as well when they count covid deaths the exact same way, but for some reason that was different.

So why should people trust people who are obviously using the data in ways that meet their agenda?

Every covid death is sacred and should be highlighted, while ever vaccination death should be ignored and downplayed.

Meanwhile, if the vaccine is so safe, why do the companies who produce them need long term legal protection? They have no problem putting your life at risk, but they refuse to take any financial risk for themselves?

But trust us!

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Don’t trust the Google doctors. Go talk to your family doctor. They are better than Google doctors


My family doctor thinks it's 99.8% political bullshite.

Let me guess - now you think I need a new family doctor. Because in reality, what you really want to say is - I want you to find an opinion that agrees with mine and accept it from that source.

I'm not anti-vaccine, I think most people will be just fine, just like 99.8% of the people who get covid. But there is an obvious agenda at work here and people who gloss over it aren't doing the world any favors.
This post was edited on 7/20/21 at 11:41 pm
Posted by Golfer1
Naples, FL
Member since Jan 2021
4657 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 11:48 pm to
Not going to tell anyone to go find a new family doctor. It’s your right to choose to take it or not and be advised by a doctor you feel safe with.

I got one in March of this year. One of the few probably in Naples to do so haha.

I’ve been a republican my entire life so don’t fall under the trap of the government but decided to take this vaccine because I do a lot of traveling and just wanted the extra layer of protection
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53455 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 11:48 pm to
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Per your info, 1 in 250k get blood clots from the vaccine but 1 in 25k get blood clots from getting the virus? Seems like a no brainer to me. We’ve been arguing all along that myocarditis, which was why the Big 10 wanted to cancel last season, was dramatically overplayed. Seems it’s way better to get vaccinated.


That's one study. Newer studies are showing it to be as high as 62%.


Now the question can again focus on science. Why are we forcing people who have little risk to vaccinate when there are other meds that studies show treat it?


I'm not for experimenting on youth for the sake of experimenting and the demand of a game.

Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53455 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 11:51 pm to
Family dr....


62% of those in the care of a Dr have now developed micro clots that will lead to heart failure. It's a matter of time.


Where do you think the numbers of 450k illnesses within the vaers system is coming from? Dr's.

In 3 to 5 years time.... its going to be ugly.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53455 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 11:56 pm to
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I'm not anti-vaccine, I think most people will be just fine, just like 99.8% of the people who get covid. But there is an obvious agenda at work here and people who gloss over it aren't doing the world any favors.



Nor am I. All of my kids are vaccinated. I am telling them to stay away from this one.


Btw. Yesterday, a whistle blower filed a lawsuit. All of the data within the VAERs system, she claims you can multiply that by a factor of 5.


True or not? I hope we find out the truth.

However if it is is, that means we are looking at 55k to 75k deaths and 2 million potential long term heath issues and death....

Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 7/21/21 at 12:09 am to
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The number I just saw was a little over 5k


Nope. That's the number after many anti-vacs people would allow the pandemic to continue. "IT will gone by the summer."
This post was edited on 7/21/21 at 12:14 am
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22656 posts
Posted on 7/21/21 at 12:12 am to
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Not going to tell anyone to go find a new family doctor. It’s your right to choose to take it or not and be advised by a doctor you feel safe with.

I got one in March of this year. One of the few probably in Naples to do so haha.

I’ve been a republican my entire life so don’t fall under the trap of the government but decided to take this vaccine because I do a lot of traveling and just wanted the extra layer of protection


I'm sure you'll be fine. I have friends who have gotten the shot and none of them have had problems.

I only take issue at the agenda.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22656 posts
Posted on 7/21/21 at 12:15 am to
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Nope. That's the number after many anti-vacs people would allow the pandemic to continue. :it will gone by the summer."


What? The number was publicly reported and was the count as of June 7th. Apparently it's since gone up.

If you want to say - well you don't know for sure if they were vaccine deaths, I'm down with that. And yep, there are probably preexisting conditions that had a play in the bad things.

Yet, yesterday when I pointed out the same exact thing when it came to counting covid deaths, you refused to apply the same logic.

So yeah, kiss my arse. You have no problem inflating one number, and then downplaying another. That's not science, that's just your own political bullshite.

This post was edited on 7/21/21 at 12:16 am
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53455 posts
Posted on 7/21/21 at 12:27 am to
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yeah, kiss my arse. You have no problem inflating one number, and then downplaying another. That's not science, that's just your own political bull shite.


Yep.


I know you and I can go at it on certain issues, but we agree.


A lot of political bs that has cost a lot of lives
Posted by The Contrarian
Member since Sep 2019
382 posts
Posted on 7/21/21 at 12:30 am to
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er your info, 1 in 250k get blood clots from the vaccine but 1 in 25k get blood clots from getting the virus?


Wow. you just destroyed this conspiracy theorist with his own info. What a complete nut case that guy is.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 7/21/21 at 12:45 am to
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SEC planning to bring back regular testing and mask protocols


lol.

I'm going to have a really hard time caring about College Football in the Fall if we have another season like that.
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