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re: SEC planning to bring back regular testing and mask protocols

Posted on 7/20/21 at 9:22 pm to
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53455 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 9:22 pm to
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stop believing conspiracy theories


LOL! Since when are peer reviewed studies and data conspiracy theories?

Tell me what date that this concept changed.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53455 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 9:24 pm to
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I'd be happy to accept a lifetime ban bet on whether the MRNA vaccines get approved. It will likely take 6 months or so, but if your willing I'd take the bet.


I can see you are not really worried about the effects nor science. By all means... continue on
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
10529 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 9:25 pm to
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That's one of the main reasons the FDA won't approve the vaccines.


Absolute hogwash.

Take the vaccine or don't, I don't care. Making up stuff or regurgitating made up stuff to support your argument doesn't strengthen your argument.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 9:26 pm to
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LOL! Since when are peer reviewed studies and data conspiracy theories?

Tell me what date that this concept changed.


The link you have provided already counters the point you intended.

I don't have the time tonight to explain it to you. I realize where you are getting your info. It is what it is. 400% that is the reality of the info you linked if you get COVID the same result is 400% more likely.
This post was edited on 7/20/21 at 9:29 pm
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
57839 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 9:26 pm to
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stop believing conspiracy theories
Thorough medical testing is a conspiracy now?

Pure copium.
Posted by GerryDiNardo
Bringing Back The Magic!
Member since Mar 2004
5562 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 9:26 pm to
Your link specifically says it’s evaluating the AstraZeneca vaccine which has never been approved in the US. You can’t extrapolate to other vaccines. It’s not the same science.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 9:28 pm to
Thorough medical testing is a conspiracy now?

Pure copium.


The current MRNA vaccines are literally the most tested vaccines in the history of the earth at this point. I believe you sincere but I also know you are sincerely ignorant.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
57839 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 9:28 pm to
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I'd be happy to accept a lifetime ban
Please do.
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
10529 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 9:29 pm to
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It’s not the same science.


He doesn't care.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 9:29 pm to
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quote:
I'd be happy to accept a lifetime ban
Please do.


Is that acceptance of my bet?
Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
Middle of a layover
Member since Nov 2010
5600 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 9:31 pm to
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The FDA won't approve these vaccines. How is that pushing a narrative? It's just stating facts.


That's because there is a timeline to all complete approvals. Pfizer will likely be approved by January, which is very fast for any FDA approval.

Vaccines clearly work, but so does natural immunity, just not as well as vaccines. 90-95% of vaccinated cases are assymptomatic, even less than that are severe.

It's beyond frustrating the fear mongering the media is doing with no actual data. By definition, if a virus becomes more contagious, it becomes less deadly >95% of the time since deadly viruses kill their hosts. The faster we let delta rip through the largely younger, unvaccinated to get base immunuty of the strain the better. We have vaccines. Time to get back to normal.

COVID will never go away, but daily COVID death percentages are now lower than the flu post vaccines, but there are more cases of COVID. We have vaccines, get back to normal and build up natural immunity which has worked well for humans over the past, you know, 100,000 years. Vaccinate the vulnerable and stop this waste of life protocol bullshite. The past 18 months have proven to me that very few in the medical profession are qualified to govern, or use basic statistics in their medical papers.

/rant
This post was edited on 7/20/21 at 9:34 pm
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22656 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 9:35 pm to
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The current MRNA vaccines are literally the most tested vaccines in the history of the earth at this point. I believe you sincere but I also know you are sincerely ignorant.


This is obviously false since you can't test the long term effects by any other method than time.

Additionally, what is the deal with the flu vaccine? Doesn't it need yearly approval or something since it constantly changes? I really don't know, I just know it changes every year.


This post was edited on 7/20/21 at 9:39 pm
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
57839 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 9:37 pm to
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That's because there is a timeline to all complete approvals.
The FDA straight up said that there were complications preventing the vaccines getting approval. It's not just red tape and paperwork.

quote:

Acting FDA Commissioner Janet Woodcock, M.D. and the Director of FDA's Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research, Peter Marks, M.D., Ph.D., discuss the suggested increased risks of myocarditis and pericarditis following COVID19 vaccination.

Literally the 29th of last month.
Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
Middle of a layover
Member since Nov 2010
5600 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 9:38 pm to
You've never followed an FDA approval process, have you?

The standard process is the FDA consistently probing various side effects over and over. They always have "concerns". That's their job.
This post was edited on 7/20/21 at 9:40 pm
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53455 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 9:40 pm to
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The link you have provided already counters the point you intended.


No it doesn't.

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I don't have the time tonight to explain it to you.


Because you can't.

quote:

I realize where you are getting your info. It is what it is. 400% that is the reality of the info you linked if you get COVID the same result is 400% more likely.


I linked to Then New England Journal of Medicine! LOL!

The Vaccine caused the damage. D-dimmer tests prove that!

All for something that is not needed when peer reviewed studies show we already have effective treatments and know the side effects.


Posted by TacoNash
Member since Mar 2020
715 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 9:42 pm to
Did you change the quote because this is the quote I found

quote:

On Thursday, June 29, 2021, Acting FDA Commissioner Janet Woodcock, M.D. and the Director of FDA's Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research Peter Marks, M.D., Ph.D., discussed the updates on myocarditis and pericarditis following vaccination with the Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna COVID-19


LINK
This post was edited on 7/20/21 at 9:43 pm
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 9:42 pm to
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This is obviously false since you can't test the long term effects by any other method than time.


Nope, I won't continue a tit for tat with ya, but you already know that vaccine issues normally occur within the 1st 8 weeks of vaccination. You also already know the current MRNA vaccines are literally processed by the human body within 48 hours of their injection.

Adults are dying right now for no reason. One died today in my area that didn't have to die...I guess waiting for the whole world to become dark seekers is legit for you but the science doesn't support it.
This post was edited on 7/20/21 at 9:46 pm
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
57839 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 9:43 pm to
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TacoNash


Straight from the FDA.gov.
This post was edited on 7/20/21 at 9:45 pm
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 9:44 pm to
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quote:
The link you have provided already counters the point you intended.


No it doesn't.

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I don't have the time tonight to explain it to you.


Because you can't.

quote:
I realize where you are getting your info. It is what it is. 400% that is the reality of the info you linked if you get COVID the same result is 400% more likely.


I linked to Then New England Journal of Medicine! LOL!

The Vaccine caused the damage. D-dimmer tests prove that!

All for something that is not needed when peer reviewed studies show we already have effective treatments and know the side effects.


Someone else in this thread has already pointed out why your link is nonsense. I am choosing not to acknowledge because it is easily disprovable.
Posted by TacoNash
Member since Mar 2020
715 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 9:45 pm to
Can you send me the actually link, I want to check it out
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