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re: SEC History Board: SEC Teams vs the old Southwest Conference
Posted on 4/7/20 at 4:57 pm to I-59 Tiger
Posted on 4/7/20 at 4:57 pm to I-59 Tiger
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The Southwest Conference as a whole was a very,very good football league until the late 1980's. Sure there were some dog years,but every league had those as well. In fact from top to bottom the SWC may have had the best league in the 1970's.
In the 1980's the SWC had some of the best teams money could buy -- literally. That's what led to the death penalty for SMU, and at one point every school but Arkansas being on some sort of probation.
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Posted on 4/7/20 at 5:09 pm to MillerLiteTime
I posted about the SEC against the old SWC. You posted that the SWC sucked. I then asked you if that was true, how did Bama do against the SWC? You then admitted that Alabama was below 500 but it didn't matter because the SWC sucked. I then congratulated you on your hot take. And now you are mad.
Rather then being mad at me, please accept this high five from ya boi LSUpimp who likes and respects you .No need for anger.
Rather then being mad at me, please accept this high five from ya boi LSUpimp who likes and respects you .No need for anger.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:11 pm to logjamming
I did. It’s wrong.
I don’t know what is worse. Lying to try to make your team look better or not being able to do simple math. Those are your only options.
I don’t know what is worse. Lying to try to make your team look better or not being able to do simple math. Those are your only options.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:39 pm to Farmer1906
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I did. It’s wrong. I don’t know what is worse. Lying to try to make your team look better or not being able to do simple math. Those are your only options.
Show your math please.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 9:17 pm to logjamming
Thank you for your manners, but I’m not doing the work for you.
Do you need help?
You take the wins plus 1/2 the ties and divide by the total games during this period.
Do you need help?
You take the wins plus 1/2 the ties and divide by the total games during this period.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 9:31 pm to Farmer1906
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Thank you for your manners, but I’m not doing the work for you
Because my numbers were correct. I said:
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LSU and tamu played 49 times before tamu joined the Big12. Tamu had a whopping 40% win percentage.
LSU leads the all time series LSU leads, 34–21–3. That’s 58 total games. Subtract the last 9 games (in which LSU went 8-1) as they all came AFTER tamu joined the Big 12.
That’s 49 games. Aggies won 20 (remember, we are talking about winning percentage). 20/49=40.8%
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You take the wins plus 1/2 the ties
What the hell does a tie have to do with tamu’s win percentage?
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:00 pm to logjamming
And there it is.
What LSU’s winning %? Do they add up to 100?
What LSU’s winning %? Do they add up to 100?
This post was edited on 4/7/20 at 10:01 pm
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:04 pm to logjamming
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Subtract the last 9 games (in which LSU went 8-1)
Yikes!
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:06 pm to Farmer1906
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And there it is.
Yep. There it is. Tamu won 40% of their games against LSU prior to joining the Big12. Not sure why you continue to dispute my original point.
This post was edited on 4/7/20 at 10:07 pm
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:08 pm to logjamming
Because it’s wrong and even after you found out it’s wrong you are either too dumb to grasp it or too stubborn to. Either way you’re still wrong.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:10 pm to Farmer1906
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Either way you’re still wrong.
So Tamu won more than 40% of its games against LSU prior to 1996?
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:22 pm to logjamming
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So Tamu won more than 40% of its games against LSU prior to 1996?
He's splitting the ties and you arent.
So he's giving an extra game and a half to either team.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:28 pm to SidewalkTiger
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So he's giving an extra game and a half to either team.
That’s not lost on me. My statement was that tamu won 40% of its games against LSU pre 1996. He said that was incorrect yet refuses to show how I’m incorrect.
The issue is tamu’s “win” percentage. By definition, the only things that matter are the number of wins compared to total games played.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:30 pm to SidewalkTiger
I calculating winning percentage the actual way it’s calculated. He’s goaltending.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:31 pm to logjamming
If you split ties
A&M is 43.8%
LSU is 56.1%
If you dont split ties
A&M is 43.4%
LSU is 56.5%
A&M is 43.8%
LSU is 56.1%
If you dont split ties
A&M is 43.4%
LSU is 56.5%
This post was edited on 4/7/20 at 10:34 pm
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:42 pm to Farmer1906
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I calculating winning percentage the actual way it’s calculated. He’s goaltending.
So winning percentage isn’t calculated by number of wins divided by the total number of games played in the sample size? Hmm.
Tamu won twenty out of a total of 49 games played. But their winning percentage is higher than 40% because they get bonus points for games they didn’t win?
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:51 pm to Murph4HOF
It is as simple as Big Earl vs. Herschel.
Pick one. Then explain.
Is there a more written about game than the '69 Arkansas Texas game? Name it.
Truth is...ALL of football was better in the 70's. Why? Because I was a kid and the players were like mythical gods. Now...they're just talented kids playing football.
Pick one. Then explain.
Is there a more written about game than the '69 Arkansas Texas game? Name it.
Truth is...ALL of football was better in the 70's. Why? Because I was a kid and the players were like mythical gods. Now...they're just talented kids playing football.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 1:43 am to MillerLiteTime
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How was it awesome? It was even more of a joke than the current Big 12. It was as if you took CUSA and added Texas, Texas A&M and Arkansas to it.
It was geographical, you know...how conferences were originally formed.
It’s not like the old PAC-8 or ACC was loaded with titans of the gridiron.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 2:19 am to MillerLiteTime
SWC has some talented teams right up to the beginning of the end.
SMU, TCU, and Texas A&M won titles in the 30’s. Heisman winners from that decade and onward: Davey O’Brien, Doak Walker, John David Crow.
Texas and Arkansas carried the banner in the 60’s. Broyles and Royal were two of the best coaches of the era, and all-time greats. Texas won 3 titles in a 8-year span. Arkansas lays claim to 1964.
Horns’ had undefeated regular season in ‘77 and featured Heisman winner Earl Campbell. Arkansas finished 11-1 and #3 that same season.
From 1960 to the end of Lou Holtz’s tenure, Hogs finished in the top 10 a dozen times.
The Longhorns of 1968 were the first university to run the Wishbone, installed by Coach Emory Bellard. He also turned a shitty Aggie program into a top 10 team.
The Houston Cougars came into the fold in the ‘70’s and won big immediately by making another offense popular: the Veer.
The 80’s saw continued success by the Horns and Hogs, the former losing a natty because of a muffed punt against Auburn. Aggies also became a conference power. Cheating ran rampant. SMU damn near won a national title before receiving the Death Penalty. Many will argue that they did what everyone else did, but were punished for being ‘new blood.’
TCU cheated big time and still sucked. Houston cheated under Bill Yeoman and was hammered when Pardee was there. Pardee and John Jenkins brought the Run and Shoot, again revolutionizing CFB. Andre Ware won a Heisman with a team on probation, which limited TV exposure.
Aggies cheated under Jackie Sherrill. They took over program dominance, but missed on a title chance under Slocum. They were 12-0 in ‘92 before getting drilled by Notre Dame in the Cotton. Undefeated in ‘94 with a 10-0-1 record, but couldn’t go to a bowl because of probation.
SWC was an outstanding conference, full of innovation and legends.
They broke up because probation hammered many schools’ athletic revenue source. Schools couldn’t be on TV. TV footprint was bad anyway. That’s why they had to break up.
Baylor was admitted to the Big 12 because Governor Ann Richards pulled some strings. Overall, Houston would have been a better choice for the long haul, but they were coming off probation and were dog shite in the money making sport. Who knows where SMU would have ended up with no Death Penalty.
SMU, TCU, and Texas A&M won titles in the 30’s. Heisman winners from that decade and onward: Davey O’Brien, Doak Walker, John David Crow.
Texas and Arkansas carried the banner in the 60’s. Broyles and Royal were two of the best coaches of the era, and all-time greats. Texas won 3 titles in a 8-year span. Arkansas lays claim to 1964.
Horns’ had undefeated regular season in ‘77 and featured Heisman winner Earl Campbell. Arkansas finished 11-1 and #3 that same season.
From 1960 to the end of Lou Holtz’s tenure, Hogs finished in the top 10 a dozen times.
The Longhorns of 1968 were the first university to run the Wishbone, installed by Coach Emory Bellard. He also turned a shitty Aggie program into a top 10 team.
The Houston Cougars came into the fold in the ‘70’s and won big immediately by making another offense popular: the Veer.
The 80’s saw continued success by the Horns and Hogs, the former losing a natty because of a muffed punt against Auburn. Aggies also became a conference power. Cheating ran rampant. SMU damn near won a national title before receiving the Death Penalty. Many will argue that they did what everyone else did, but were punished for being ‘new blood.’
TCU cheated big time and still sucked. Houston cheated under Bill Yeoman and was hammered when Pardee was there. Pardee and John Jenkins brought the Run and Shoot, again revolutionizing CFB. Andre Ware won a Heisman with a team on probation, which limited TV exposure.
Aggies cheated under Jackie Sherrill. They took over program dominance, but missed on a title chance under Slocum. They were 12-0 in ‘92 before getting drilled by Notre Dame in the Cotton. Undefeated in ‘94 with a 10-0-1 record, but couldn’t go to a bowl because of probation.
SWC was an outstanding conference, full of innovation and legends.
They broke up because probation hammered many schools’ athletic revenue source. Schools couldn’t be on TV. TV footprint was bad anyway. That’s why they had to break up.
Baylor was admitted to the Big 12 because Governor Ann Richards pulled some strings. Overall, Houston would have been a better choice for the long haul, but they were coming off probation and were dog shite in the money making sport. Who knows where SMU would have ended up with no Death Penalty.
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