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re: SEC commissioner on NIL deals: ‘We’re seeing just straight payments’

Posted on 5/20/22 at 5:44 pm to
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
32681 posts
Posted on 5/20/22 at 5:44 pm to
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What you just described is against the rules and it is not legal. $750k for signing a football would not get approved.
Approved by who? Has there been a governing body set up for NIL? Would that even be legal?

How do you put a value on what’s reasonable for name image and likeness. It’s the slipperiest of slopes. We had black and white rules and they were constantly violated. Pay for play is in until someone says otherwise.
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
32681 posts
Posted on 5/20/22 at 6:21 pm to
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The supreme court ruled they could make money on their name, image and likeness. It did not rule that it was legal to pay players to come to your school.
It ruled that it was legal to pay kids THAT go to your school. Who’s going to mediate what percent of the payment is legitimate and what percent isn’t.
Posted by BigSneezy
Member since Nov 2020
1881 posts
Posted on 5/20/22 at 6:25 pm to
So what. It’s legal for NIL payments to be made. Who cares.
Posted by Lige
Member since Nov 2015
1422 posts
Posted on 5/20/22 at 6:36 pm to
What did people expect?
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
21951 posts
Posted on 5/20/22 at 6:38 pm to
I wouldn’t trust Snakey … that dude is on the take from Saban’s payroll.
Posted by KwoodTiger
Member since Aug 2011
916 posts
Posted on 5/20/22 at 6:43 pm to
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We're not seeing name image and likeness activity — we're seeing just straight payments

If true, then why doesn’t Sankey grow a sack and kick A&M out of the conference?

Conference membership is not a legal right.

What a puss if he is knowing allowing pay-for-play.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
21951 posts
Posted on 5/20/22 at 6:46 pm to
He wants Texas n the conference and they “advertise” pay for play
Posted by Nitro Express
Gulf Coast
Member since Jul 2018
16174 posts
Posted on 5/20/22 at 6:57 pm to
"I already told y'all, we didn't do nuffin wrong, baws. It was all legal. Our coaches just busted their asses."

- Cuck Fisher

Posted by Nitro Express
Gulf Coast
Member since Jul 2018
16174 posts
Posted on 5/20/22 at 6:58 pm to
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wouldn’t trust Snakey … that dude is on the take from Saban’s payroll.


Oh the bullshite we read on the rant.
Posted by JJxvi
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
368 posts
Posted on 5/20/22 at 9:29 pm to
Collectives of donors are forming basically new businesses (or charities in some cases) to market the athletes, to essentially be their NIL agent. Whats happening is that the collectives are just buying out rights to each player’s name image and likeness up front. Essentially buying from the player the right to market them in the future. Then the collective recoups some of what they pay out from whichever of the players become profitable.

As such, they are essentially just marketing agencies. Since the players are selling all their rights up front, yes it looks like "just straight payments" but from the player's perspective they are cashing in the future value of NIL that may never materialize for them in the future if they dont play, or get hurt, or whatever. Risk is transferred from the player to the collective which is able to hedge because they are invested in almost every player and inevitably a few will become the stars on the team.

The payment the player receives up front is still a payment made in exchange for right to their name, image, and likeness. This is the box that is opened. A brand new player has NIL that has value, even if nobody is sure that player will be a star yet. The NCAA will find it impossible to try and stop a player from taking the money for their rights up front just to try and enforce some kind of arbitrary “you have to wait a few years until you get a direct payment for an ad and if you never get famous, well sucks for you” model of NIL
This post was edited on 5/20/22 at 9:38 pm
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Member since Oct 2014
45086 posts
Posted on 5/20/22 at 10:52 pm to
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My freshman year in college was '85. It was well known in the SWC in those days that if you beat Texas too many times the NCAA came calling.

...and they did. There has never been parity. The field has always been tilted for certain schools.


Ding ding.

Baylor ‘rape scandal’.

ESPN & Texas losing millions on longhorn network and conference rival 90 miles away emerging.

It was covered like 1/6 in regards to the lawlessness. TWO individuals saw a cell, Baylor lost their HC and started over and still are more of a conference force than Texas.

How much has anyone heard of that entire scandal since Briles was canned?

One of the reasons UT ran away rot he SEC for cash instead valuing the actual sport and tradition.
This post was edited on 5/20/22 at 10:53 pm
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26958 posts
Posted on 5/20/22 at 11:05 pm to
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This is on Alito and Thomas and the other retards on the SCOTUS.


Yea, frick those kids. Let them work for free.


This isn't the fault of SCOTUS. The NCAA still has the power to regulate what schools and boosters do.
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
This side of eternity
Member since Jun 2016
10051 posts
Posted on 5/21/22 at 3:12 am to
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This isn't the fault of SCOTUS


I know it’s not. I was being sarcastic because the poster that said it, either has a dumb take or is an idiot.
This post was edited on 5/21/22 at 3:13 am
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20378 posts
Posted on 5/21/22 at 6:12 am to
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What do you bet he has been seeing straight payments for many years now, well before the dawn of NIL, and is just now mentioning it.

Magnitude is a factor, I suspect. Probably not more than a little over a million a year for the top programs in the past; now we're seeing some players get that much by themselves.

If you're old enough to remember pinball tables, you could bump and shake them just a little to finesse things. Too much and you get the "TILT" game over.
That is/was CFB's unwritten rule, you had to be subtle with it.

I suspect with NIL, the hidden aspect is now revealed, but the adjustment will be that things are going to have to be more "letter of the law" in return. If you can get players paid openly, they're probably going to have to stand up under the microscope.
Posted by RTRinTampa
Central FL
Member since Jan 2013
5532 posts
Posted on 5/21/22 at 6:23 am to
And Jacksonville St got the #1 recruit in the nation because they are an NFL factory that has every game televised in prime time.

Some of you need to get your heads out of the sand.
This post was edited on 5/21/22 at 6:30 am
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