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re: SEC championship winners in football

Posted on 7/1/19 at 3:59 pm to
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 7/1/19 at 3:59 pm to
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Auburn should've played an AQ OOC.

out of our control that year
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 4:07 pm to
No it wasn't. Protip: Bowling Green wasn't AQ.
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
21389 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 4:10 pm to
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No it wasn't. Protip: Bowling Green wasn't AQ.

Yeah I forgot we went through this before. But BG would've been better than Citadel.
The bigger issue was the preseason rankings. 1-2 vs. 17.
This post was edited on 7/1/19 at 4:12 pm
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
15940 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 8:55 pm to
That’s fine, but losing head to head seems like a bigger deal than winning one more game against a weaker conference foe.

In a 10 team league, Auburn rarely played LSU and Bama rarely played Georgia.
Georgia rarely played LSU. AU rarely played Vanderbilt or Ole Miss. it was an odd league in that sometimes bowl matchups were SEC versus SEC. AU played Vanderbilt and Ole Miss in three bowl games(Gator, Gator, Liberty). LSU and Tennessee played in the astrobluebonnet bowl one year. Bama played Ole Miss in sugar. Etc.
I guess in the modern 14 team league you have occasional post season matchups like Bama UGA for all the marbles.

At least now the schedule is set. You play all your division and tw from the other.
A head to head win is bigger now, as it should be.

Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30600 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 9:17 pm to
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quote:
The "any" means that it's not restricted to just Alabama

You're not too bright, are you?

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any SEC team could schedule extra SEC games if they wanted to

"Any" SEC team (not just Bama) could WANT to schedule extra SEC games, but couldn't unless they found someone else willing to play them.
You're questioning someone's intelligence when YOU feel the need to state that another SEC team also has to play in order for it to be an SEC game..I guess you perceived that after giving it a lot of thought, huh?.. Which one are you? Boudreaux or Thibodeaux?
Posted by Jack Prenderville
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2019
183 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 7:45 am to
Auburn went 25 years between SEC Championships

Georgia went 20

Tennessee is at 20 now and no end in sight

Can't imagine having that happen.
Posted by Jack Prenderville
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2019
183 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 7:48 am to
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Auburn is also the 2004 MNC since the BCS was vacated.


That isn't how it works.
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18151 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 8:03 am to
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'm still not exactly sure how or why UK claims this.

-UGA was 5-1 in conference, UK was 4-2
-UGA beat kentucky 31-7
-UGA also had a better overall record and finished higher if those factored in at all


MSU had to forfeit a game to UK in 1976 which then changed their official record to 5-1 and gave them a split with UGA. MSU was playing ineligible players.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54782 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 8:13 am to
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Arkansas (0)
Missouri (0)
Sewanee (0)
South Carolina (0)
Texas A&M (0)
Vanderbilt (0)


Granted Arkansas and Missouri are new, but Sewanee, South Carolina, Texas A&M, and Vanderbilt were all in at least the SIAA or SoCon. I think the Dores had about a dozen conference championships back then. Texas A&M was pretty good back in the day but got pulled into the SWC by Texas.
Posted by UnderDog68
Thomasville, Ga.
Member since Sep 2017
2542 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 10:43 am to
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Damn I was hoping we’d just missed one somewhere. Maybe next time. Thanks


You'll always have that 7-4 team in 1969 that won the ACC, so there is that.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 11:08 am to
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The bigger issue was the preseason rankings. 1-2 vs. 17.


That's what happens when you shite the bed the season before when everyone expected you to be in the running for a national championship. USC and Oklahoma were rightfully ranked #1 and #2 in the preseason polls based on what they did the year before and what they had coming back.

In 2003, USC finished 12-1 with a national championship trophy from the Associated Press as well as a Rose Bowl win. Oklahoma finished 12-2 with a BCS National Championship Game appearance. Auburn finished 8-5 with a win in the Music City Bowl. That's setting aside the fact that USC blanked Auburn 23-0 in Jordan-Hare to begin the season.

Did Auburn get screwed in 2004? No. Not really. We can talk about the strength of schedule, average margin of victory, and point differentials all we want to. Bottom line, no voter was about to move Auburn over two undefeated teams that had been ranked #1 and #2 all season long. Prior to that Orange Bowl game, *everyone* was saying that USC and Oklahoma were the two best teams in college football. It wasn't until after USC blew the breaks off Oklahoma from the second quarter onward that the SEC and Auburn fans began trumpeting the Tigers.

It sucks that there wasn't a playoff in 2004, because that would have been an awesome year for it. You had USC, Oklahoma, Auburn, and Utah all undefeated going into the post-season. I would have loved to have seen the following bowl match-ups:

#1 USC vs. #4 Utah in the Rose Bowl
#2 Oklahoma vs. #3 Auburn in the Cotton Bowl







Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 12:42 pm to
Auburn would've been ahead of Oklahoma had they played an AQ OOC. They chose not to. Choices can have consequences.
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