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re: SEC Baseball Talk: Top 16 National Seeds & SEC Teams in NCAAt

Posted on 5/13/24 at 3:44 pm to
Posted by ColoradoAg
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 3:44 pm to
Oklahoma isn't deserving at all, but I would expect the committee to give the B12 winner one of the T8 anyway.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 3:51 pm to
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The committee will do everything in their power to ensure that all SEC tournament teams are on the same side of the bracket. Just watch.


I'm 99% sure they're going to seed things where we match up with South Carolina after losing that series this season.
Posted by Temple of the Dog
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 4:00 pm to
If you take the average of KPI and RPI

1. Kentucky (32 TCU)
2. Texas A&M (31 USM)
3. Arkansas (30 LSU)
4. Georgia (29 UCSB)
5. Tennessee (28 UC Irvine)
6. North Carolina (27 Nebraska)
7. Clemson (26 Arizona)
8. Wake Forest (25 Florida)
9. Florida State (24 Coastal)
10. Virginia (23 Ole Miss)
11. Mississippi State (22 Vandy)
12. Oklahoma (21 Oregon St)
13. Alabama (20 DBU)
14. Oklahoma State (19 NCSU)
15. East Carolina (18 S Carolina)
16. Indiana State (17 Duke)


Breakout of Top 16
- 7 SEC
- 5 ACC
- 2 B12
- 1 AAC
- 1 MVC

You'd have to imagine they'd probably give a regional to Oregon State instead of Alabama/South Carolina to have a western regional. But there isn't really much of a good argument for many teams outside of the SEC/ACC to host.

Oregon State has played 3 Q1 games. Alabama has played 28. State has played 23. South Carolina has played 24.

Oregon State is 31-3 vs Q3/4 and 8-9 vs Q1/2. Alabama is 15-2 vs Q3/4 and 17-17 vs Q1/2. State is 15-5 vs Q3/4 and 18-13 vs Q1/2. South Carolina is 18-2 vs Q3/4 and 15-16 vs Q1/2.

The only other possible options are UCSB and Irvine, and it's more of the same.
This post was edited on 5/13/24 at 4:07 pm
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 4:00 pm to
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Lololool you have Ole Miss hitting the road over LSU is comical


Yes, as in, on the road in a regional.

LSU has 10 league wins. LSU unfortunately, isn’t making the NCAAt.
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 4:07 pm to
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I'd probably give out 5 to the SEC and 3 to ACC.


They’ll try and fit a G5 and west coast team on there somewhere.

The ACC top teams all shat themselves over the weekend. That’s why I dropped all in my top 8/16. Oregon State and Arizona play this weekend for the regular season title out west. The real head scratcher will be what to do with Arizona if they win that series and win the regular season title.

I’d also mention to keep an eye on UC Irvine. Santa Barbara has been getting all the pub and picks to host, but they’re quietly sitting at 23 RPI and 10-3 against Q1 & Q2 teams. Irvine also owns a series win over UCSB. They’ve got two weekends left. UCSB is 2 games up right now.

This post was edited on 5/13/24 at 4:16 pm
Posted by Temple of the Dog
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 4:09 pm to
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I’d also mention to keep an eye on UC Irvine. Santa Barbara has been getting all the pub and picks to host, but they’re quietly sitting at 23 RPI and 10-3 against Q1 & Q2 teams. Irvine also owns a series win over UCSB. They’ve got two weekends left. UCSB is 2 games up right now.



I think Irvine is the most likely #16 seed/host of the teams out west. They need to take all 4 from LMU and Fullerton and then CSUN is a top 100 RPI, so if they won out they'd be in pretty good shape. 45-10/44-11 with a Top 20 RPI, probably. 12 or 13 Q1/2 wins. That resume would probably top Oregon State's (assuming OSU wins the Zona series).

But somebody out west is going to host a regional.
This post was edited on 5/13/24 at 4:11 pm
Posted by rtr23242526
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 4:16 pm to
14 sec wins..IN
Posted by ukraine_rebel
North Mississippi
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 4:18 pm to
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Think who wins that series gets that bid. Unless the other goes deep in the sec tournament and the other loses quickly


Sitting w 10 sec wins LSU likely needs a sweep. Thursday game has the makings of a loser leaves town match.
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 4:20 pm to
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But somebody out west is going to host a regional.


100% and I’d venture maybe 2 hosts.

It’s simple if Oregon State wins the Pac 12. The Beavers plus a G5 team. If OSU loses to Arizona, I’m not sure Arizona has a host resume. Both UCSB and the Anteaters have a better resume than Arizona. Well, and Oregon State as well. But OSU will host on name recognition alone if champions of PAC 12, because their resume is pretty weak. 8-9 against Q1 & Q2 teams. Only one (1) Q1 win.

Posted by Farmer1906
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Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 4:30 pm to
Oregon St and UCSB are probably the only two real candidates. Warren Nolan has UCI at 21 if they win their final 7 games.
Posted by hawgsalot
Member since Nov 2011
846 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 4:31 pm to
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Humor me.

Team A
-Higher RPI
-More Q1 Wins
-Fewer Q2+Q3+Q4 losses
-Head to Head series win
-5 Q1 Series Wins
-Better Overall Record by 1 game

Team B
-Finished 1 game higher in the conference standings
-4 Q1 Series Wins

Why would Team B get ranked ahead fo Team A?


I'll humor you, two weeks ago you were puffing that chest out about being the number one seed, let's get through the weekend and see where the RPI shakes out. Playing a top seed on the road has a tendency to increase one's RPI substantially. AR wins 1 game at A$M, we win the west and guarantee a top 4 seed. You're not jumping us, TN, nor KY without a sweep, that's literally your only shot.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
40908 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 4:45 pm to
Tennessee at #1 has a nice ring to it.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50723 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 4:47 pm to
You say that, but you have nothing to back it up. How I felt a week ago has nothing to do with the facts of each resume. Facts don't care about your feelings.
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 4:54 pm to
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Tennessee at #1 has a nice ring to it.

Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
22231 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 5:14 pm to
A&M must beat Arkansas to edge out UGA from the discussion, not Arkansas. I think Arkansas is a T8 no matter what at this point, unless A&M sweeps them.

And that isn't likely.
This post was edited on 5/13/24 at 5:21 pm
Posted by Rising
Member since Apr 2024
176 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 5:19 pm to
A&M to high
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
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22231 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 5:28 pm to
"too" high
Posted by Omahawgs15
Member since Mar 2023
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 5:53 pm to
I think Arkansas only has to win one this weekend to lock up top 8 seed…
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
22231 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 6:02 pm to
Agreed
This post was edited on 5/13/24 at 6:03 pm
Posted by Hawgeye
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Member since Jun 2009
31090 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 6:09 pm to
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You say that, but you have nothing to back it up. How I felt a week ago has nothing to do with the facts of each resume. Facts don't care about your feelings.


Here’s a fact.

aTm has to win the series against Arkansas this weekend to still remain in top 8 contention.

Arkansas doesn’t have to win the series this weekend to be a top 8 seed nor the champion of the division both teams are in.

You can post and attempt to draw conclusions to your thinking…but those are the cold hard facts. And only aTm is to blame for that after going 2-4 and losing consecutive series against two teams that are very much mediocre and both may miss the post season.
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