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SDS's Matt Hayes: Time to Include the CFP Games before Voting for Heisman

Posted on 1/11/23 at 11:57 am
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 1/11/23 at 11:57 am
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At some point this must be addressed and can’t continue to be ignored.

Especially with the expanded Playoff 2 seasons away.

It’s time for the Heisman Trophy Trust to amend its rules, push back the voting deadline and declare a winner of the greatest individual award in sports after the college football season.

Not before the postseason begins.

“People have slept on Stetson Bennett for too long,” Georgia coach Kirby Smart said after another epic Playoff performance by Bennett.

Here’s the thing: If the Heisman vote were this week, Bennett — Georgia’s 2-time national champion quarterback — would win in a landslide.

If the Heisman vote were after the Playoff last season, Bryce Young still would’ve won big — even after Alabama lost to Georgia in the national championship game.


https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/why-heisman-trophy-should-be-decided-after-playoff-championship-game/
Posted by geauxnavybeatbama
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 1/11/23 at 12:22 pm to
Anyone could have been successful with that roster
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41644 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 12:25 pm to
Bennett aside, it doesn't make sense to vote for the best player before seeing the best* teams play against each other, and to see how the best players on those teams play in the biggest spotlight.

We've seen our share of Heisman winners outplayed in the playoffs over the years.
Posted by Maravich
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 1/11/23 at 12:26 pm to
Stetsons a modern day AJ McCarron, but georgia fans aren’t ready for that conversation
Posted by Quicksilver
Poker Room
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 1/11/23 at 12:27 pm to
Maybe. Caleb Williams also had a great bowl game.
Posted by Barry McCockinner
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 1/11/23 at 12:28 pm to
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Bennett aside, it doesn't make sense to vote for the best player before seeing the best* teams play against each other, and to see how the best players on those teams play in the biggest spotlight.


Bingo.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/11/23 at 12:28 pm to
Man LSU fans are taking Stetson’s success pretty hard
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 1/11/23 at 12:28 pm to
really? cause bryce young had a roster that was every bit as good and he lost twice
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49232 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 12:29 pm to
Their logic is insanely flawed according to them Stetson is a mediocre QB with just an insane amount of NFL talent not seen since 2019 LSU but that can’t be it because 2019 LSU can’t ever be touched
This post was edited on 1/11/23 at 12:30 pm
Posted by meansonny
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/11/23 at 12:29 pm to
AJ McCarron, huh?

Stetson Bennett versus Oregon (#15), South Carolina (#23), Tennessee (#6), Mississippi St (#20), LSU (#16), Ohio (#4), and TCU (#2).

National rankings against AP ranked teams (season ending)
147 completions, 204 attempts 72.1%(#1 in the country by P5 QBs)

2,372 yards (#2 in country behind Caleb Williams)
10.7 yards per attempt (#1 in country)
20 TDs (#1 in country)
3 INTs
QB efficiency rating 190.99 (#1 in country)
Sacked 2 times (both against Ohio)

86 rushing yards.
7 rushing TDs
3.58 ypr

Out of all of those AP ranked teams, UGAs WR Corp might rank last.
Maybe the kid is damn good.
Posted by BigMob
Georgia
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 1/11/23 at 12:30 pm to
Word.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 1/11/23 at 12:30 pm to
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Stetsons a modern day AJ McCarron, but georgia fans aren’t ready for that conversation


He won back to back titles and might make millions as a backup QB in the NFL? Gee, how insulting.
Posted by Dstllsu
Ga
Member since Jan 2016
1651 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 12:31 pm to
Stop trying to give individual awards for team success. Stetson isn't even the best player on his own squad
Posted by Maravich
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 1/11/23 at 12:31 pm to
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Man LSU fans are taking Stetson’s success pretty hard


Lmao just stating facts bro, it’s okay to accept the truth
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36449 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 12:34 pm to
ok so you wanted jalen carter to win the heisman? stfu
Posted by geauxnavybeatbama
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 1/11/23 at 12:34 pm to
Bowers deserved the heisman. I’d agree with that.
Posted by Dstllsu
Ga
Member since Jan 2016
1651 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 12:35 pm to
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ok so you wanted jalen carter to win the heisman? stfu


Doesn't necessarily mean anyone on Georgia should win it. The best player on that offense is Bowers.

Nobody outside SOME Georgia fans thinks Stetson is elite
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32800 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 12:41 pm to
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Stop trying to give individual awards for team success. Stetson isn't even the best player on his own squad


Stetson is the MVP of our team. Do what you want with that info.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32800 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 12:43 pm to
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Nobody outside SOME Georgia fans thinks Stetson is elite


Uga fans don’t vote for the heisman, or CHAMPIONSHIP game MVP’s, so this is the low level retard logic.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41644 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 12:46 pm to
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Maybe. Caleb Williams also had a great bowl game.
Good for him, but waiting until after the bowls and playoffs gives a good comparison for how those best players play in the biggest games. Stroud, Duggan, and Bennett could be further compared to Williams based on their individual performances in those extra games to see if anyone nudges the scales in their favors compared to playing a regular season and potentially a conference championship.
This post was edited on 1/11/23 at 12:47 pm
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