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re: Schlabach says SEC cheats
Posted on 3/9/11 at 9:48 am to Supravol22
Posted on 3/9/11 at 9:48 am to Supravol22
quote:He was the UT football coach.
Kiffin is a bastard but the NCAA is targeting him and not our program for his discretions.
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Posted on 3/9/11 at 9:49 am to TreyAnastasio
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I think you should wait until the NCAA rules on Kiffen before you say your program will be unscathed.
We may get put on probation but I don't see much else happening.
Posted on 3/9/11 at 9:49 am to HogHazard
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usually Alabama fans are the most knowledgeable about football.
whoa....slow down gunpowder. Stick around here longer and i'm sure your opinion will change.
Posted on 3/9/11 at 9:50 am to DvlsAdvocat
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Oh, they FOUND plenty...they PUNISHED nothing...there is a difference.
Link?
Posted on 3/9/11 at 9:52 am to DvlsAdvocat
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And that LSU coach...
Who got fired and where the player never set foot on the field.
Posted on 3/9/11 at 9:53 am to tigerinridgeland
quote:Weren't their also thousands of impermissible phone calls to recruits from other people in the Athletic Department?
Who got fired and where the player never set foot on the field.
Posted on 3/9/11 at 9:54 am to Supravol22
Posted on 3/9/11 at 9:55 am to tigerinridgeland
I know it's just BS and other team's fans just see it as an opportunity to give shite but the LSU player never even stepped foot on the field, barely on the practice field, and the coach was fired as soon as the year was over. What other program has self-imposed anything for that matter 
Posted on 3/9/11 at 9:55 am to tigerinridgeland
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Who got fired and where the player never set foot on the field.
Yeah, we can throw qualifiers in to "explain" how so and so's cheating is DIFFERENT or LESS SERIOUS than the other guy's cheating...but its all still cheating.
Posted on 3/9/11 at 9:57 am to WDE24
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Weren't their also thousands of impermissible phone calls to recruits from other people in the Athletic Department?
No
Posted on 3/9/11 at 9:58 am to JBREAUX4LSU
quote:Were there also thousands of improper calls to recruits by AD employees that were not fired or not?
JBREAUX4LSU
Posted on 3/9/11 at 9:59 am to WDE24
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Weren't their also thousands of impermissible phone calls to recruits from other people in the Athletic Department?
There certainly were violations regarding calls that in reality had nothing to do with illegal benefits, etc. There was no showing of intentional violation nor any effort to obtain an unfair advantage, which is why no big deal was made of the calls.
The intial reference was to the coach at LSU who did provide improper benefits to a recruit/signee, but who never played a down, unlike the OSU situation.
Posted on 3/9/11 at 10:02 am to tigerinridgeland
quote:I guess we will just take your word for it.
There was no showing of intentional violation nor any effort to obtain an unfair advantage, which is why no big deal was made of the calls.
Posted on 3/9/11 at 10:04 am to WDE24
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I guess we will just take your word for it.
or you could take the NCAAs
Posted on 3/9/11 at 10:04 am to Choctaw
quote:Sure, post a link where they have said something about it.
or you could take the NCAAs
ETA: Also, do you take their word on these matters?
This post was edited on 3/9/11 at 10:06 am
Posted on 3/9/11 at 10:05 am to DvlsAdvocat
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Yeah, we can throw qualifiers in to "explain" how so and so's cheating is DIFFERENT or LESS SERIOUS than the other guy's cheating...but its all still cheating.
Cheating is cheating, but there is a big difference between immediately dealing with the cheating appropriately and simply covering it up and denying it happened. LSU has dealt with any cheating forthrightly and promptly. LSU fired the assistant coach responsible and never played the ineligible player. So there is a difference- one school deals with it appropriately, while another covers the cheating and compounds it.
There is also a difference between intentional cheating (knowing violation of the rules) and unintentional violation of a technical rule without any intent to gain an advantage no permitted by the rules (the telephone calls). That is why distinctions are made between major violations and minor ones.
Posted on 3/9/11 at 10:06 am to WDE24
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Sure, post a link where they have said something about it.
post a link about the "thousands of improper calls" first
This post was edited on 3/9/11 at 10:07 am
Posted on 3/9/11 at 10:06 am to Choctaw
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or you could take the NCAAs
Posted on 3/9/11 at 10:09 am to Choctaw
quote:How many do you need?
post a link about the "thousands of improper calls" first
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An Oct. 27 letter from Martin to Southeastern Conference Commissioner Mike Slive also indicated that LSU determined additional phone calls by non-coaching football staffers to recruits that violated NCAA rules. The report states that such calls mostly involved “routine clerical tasks” and did not give LSU “any significant recruiting advantage.”
An audit of phone records dating back to August 2008 showed 389 phone calls were placed or received by non-coaching staffers and recruits or their families. Another 3,615 calls involved high school administrators or high school coaches, the report states.
LINK
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But the LSU report also stated that thousands of improper phone calls between non-coaching football staffers and recruits, their families, high school coaches or administrators were discovered after the initial violations were reported in March.
LINK
This post was edited on 3/9/11 at 10:11 am
Posted on 3/9/11 at 10:12 am to Supravol22
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Kiffin is a bastard but the NCAA is targeting him and not our program for his discretions.
Right. The NCAA should put UT on probation just for hiring the douchebag.
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Pearl lied about a BBQ.
Makes you wonder what else he's lying about.
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They investigated the Tee Martin thing and found nothing.
I guess he had already spent the money.
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Thanks for playing.
You're welcome.
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