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re: Sark draft turnaround - 2 year draft total
Posted on 4/29/25 at 2:23 am to The_Giving_Tree
Posted on 4/29/25 at 2:23 am to The_Giving_Tree
We are definitely getting a kind of player we weren’t getting for years. Part Sark, part NIL. Big part too is it’s just true the SEC draws better caliber players.
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Posted on 4/29/25 at 8:24 am to CaliHorn
Posted on 4/29/25 at 8:40 am to CaliHorn
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We are definitely getting a kind of player we weren’t getting for years. Part Sark, part NIL. Big part too is it’s just true the SEC draws better caliber pla
Part BAMA. Kirby to the East and Sark to the West, they are still trying to build the same teams BAMA put on the field during the Nick Saban era.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 8:58 am to CaliHorn
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We are definitely getting a kind of player we weren’t getting for years. Part Sark, part NIL. Big part too is it’s just true the SEC draws better caliber players.
Very much this,
Yes, Texas had more than a few 4 and 5 star players prior to Sark. The difference is the players Texas was signing were not as hotly pursued by the Bama's and Georgia's of college football. These players were the type of players that had more interest in what activities the city of Austin had to provide, than developing as a player. They'd fiddle frick around the first couple of years, playing more at the night life and games, than football. Towards the end of their careers and draft day approaching they'd start some effort, but by then, it's just too late.
In short, undisciplined lazy knuckleheads, but talented.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 9:20 am to HorninHouston
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Ewers was the problem this year.
Ewers played really well the last two years, starting the season up until he was injured. If he can ride the bench for 2-3 years at Miami, get 100% healthy, and learn the system/playbook, I think he has a chance to play.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 9:24 am to theyatoak
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Texas always had good recruiting classes under Charlie and Herman. Go back and look. The difference now is the development of the players we are bringing in.
I would also argue that the culture has vastly improved. Charlie kicked 8-10 troublemakers off the team and tried to improve the culture, but failed. Herman made the culture worse.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 9:49 am to Corriente Kid
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Ewers played really well the last two years, starting the season up until he was injured. If he can ride the bench for 2-3 years at Miami, get 100% healthy, and learn the system/playbook, I think he has a chance to play.
Yeah I'm on the fence. I don't know if the problem was Quinn, lack of development, or the play calling. May have been a combination of all 3. We're going to find out a lot this year about Sark's play calling and development. If the offense continues to struggle we'll know more.
I am rooting for Quinn though. Hope he proves everyone wrong.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 10:05 am to HorninHouston
According to Dez Bryant, Quinn is "The next Dan Marino". LOL
Posted on 4/29/25 at 10:24 am to Corriente Kid
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According to Dez Bryant, Quinn is "The next Dan Marino". LOL
Wouldn't that be nice for the Dolphins (and Horns)
Posted on 4/29/25 at 10:27 am to Corriente Kid
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According to Dez Bryant, Quinn is "The next Dan Marino". LOL
I don't see it but I'm definitely rooting for him to succeed. Who knows? I do think Miami is a good spot for him.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 10:29 am to FireDanMullen
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Does it concern you that the Georgia teams you’re comparing to had 2 national titles and Texas hasn’t reached a championship appearance or do you believe it’s inevitable Sark gets a title in Austin
Legitimate question. I’d be a little concerned pumping out NFL talent and not having close to any hardware
Yeah, if this pattern continues, it will become an issue or it should. When Alabama was in it's 15 year run we'd fill up the NFL draft with players. But we also put six trophies in the trophy case as well. UGA essentially did the same, when they were loaded with NFL talent they went back to back. It doesn't do a college much good to keep having all of that NFL talent but never bring home any NC hardware.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 10:37 am to NWLA_Bama
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Yeah, if this pattern continues, it will become an issue or it should. When Alabama was in it's 15 year run we'd fill up the NFL draft with players. But we also put six trophies in the trophy case as well. UGA essentially did the same, when they were loaded with NFL talent they went back to back. It doesn't do a college much good to keep having all of that NFL talent but never bring home any NC hardware.
Now count how many years Kirby had to keep reloading 5-star talent before he finally won the NC. Let me help, Kirby started coaching in Athens in 2016. Now do Ryan Day.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 1:35 pm to CaliHorn
quote:Mack Brown quit on the job, and Charlie Strong & Tom Herman filled their coaches from Louisville, Houston and their G5 contacts.
We are definitely getting a kind of player we weren’t getting for years. Part Sark, part NIL. Big part too is it’s just true the SEC draws better caliber players.
Sark has coaching contacts from Pete Carroll & Nick Saban, from the NFL, and from So Cal to Washington to Texas and the SEC. Sark was coached by Lavell Edwards and Norm Chow and played at a high level at BYU. He took assistants away from National Champion Alabama & Saban OL, QB, TE, DL, ST, huge!), DL coach from the NFL, DC from Washington, and others from P5 schools.
The biggest thing Sark has done is get the right coaches (not bag men) and develop the players. Listen to Saban's comments during the draft talking about 1st rounders Banks, Barron & Golden.
Sarks reputation and proven record
+ 2x CFP Semi's
+ 22 NFL draft picks in 2 years
+ SEC
+ NIL
+ Austin
+ Texas Longhorn Brand
+ Sark culture, cultivated from the ground up
+ Top tier academics & education
+ Texas Administration from the BOR to President to AD
= a pretty favorable sales pitch to recruits and parents.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 1:53 pm to bamameister
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Now count how many years Kirby had to keep reloading 5-star talent before he finally won the NC. Let me help, Kirby started coaching in Athens in 2016. Now do Ryan Day.
Kirby was under the unfortunate circumstances of having Bama in their championship years blocking them. Day, on the other hand, didn't have anything like Bama standing in his way and if he hadn't of won it this time around, he was going to be more than likely canned. The Ohio St fanbase is also A LOT more patient than Alabama's and Texas' as well.
But back to Kirby, if it hadn't of been for Bama standing in the way, Kirby may have four NC's right now.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 1:54 pm to bamameister
quote:Neither has Nick Saban. So talent only gets you so far
Part BAMA. Kirby to the East and Sark to the West, they are still trying to build the same teams BAMA put on the field during the Nick Saban era.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 1:59 pm to Ptins944
The ONLY thing that matters is NFL Draft picks and NIL. Sarkisian is a reformed alcoholic, and far from a Boy Scout. He does have the Texas pocket books on his side.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 2:18 pm to Corriente Kid
I was never really sure what things players did wrong. I initially gave Strong the benefit of the doubt. But then the team botched a coin flip and got 3 XPs blocked in a game and I realized he just didn’t know what he was doing.
This post was edited on 4/29/25 at 6:08 pm
Posted on 4/29/25 at 5:03 pm to CaliHorn
getting all the talented players they wanted or needed has never been a problem for Texas. None of the other coaches could do anything with the talent consistently. Sark is doing that....So I'd say it was a development issue or poor rankings or just being lazy and signing bunch of over rated players.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 5:16 pm to CaliHorn
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I was never really sure what those things players did wrong. I initially gave Strong the benefit of the doubt. But then the team botched a coin flip and got 3 XPs blocked in a game and I realized he just didn’t know what he was doing.
in retrospect i feel like some of these had seen real coaching and preparation, and probably fighting against whatever dumb shite they were doing in practice
Posted on 4/29/25 at 5:41 pm to BigHorn69
I remember everyone getting excited because his strength and conditioning coach was going to have players sitting out for injuries digging holes or something dumb like that. You’ll lose guys fast if you’re doing that and not taking care of practicing basic execution.
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