re: Saban tells players to put their politics aside, they are going to White House

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Constitution guarantees freedom of the press. But when newscasters are giving opinions/agendas that aren't news, then they aren't protected

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There is no "carve out" for opinions.

First Amendment - Religion and Expression. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Don't want to get drug back into this, but quick 2 minute response here:

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A- Certainly in the 1st year of a major tax reform bill CPAs will have more work getting everybody on board, but we all know that the simplification will eventually save big $$$ with filing expenses.

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You do not know what was in the bill. I have read it and spent 10-15 hours in meeting about it. It was most definitely NOT SIMPLIFICATION. Not in any way shape or form. At all. Practically zero provisions in the entire bill simplified anything. In fact, the pass-through deduction and repatriation toll charge are extremely complex and there implementation are not fully understood yet. They greatly increased complexity and there will be regulations issued (later this year I suspect) that may be a hundred additional pages of regulations for just these two areas. And these two areas are brand new, 100% and apply every year. I finished a repatriation toll charge yesterday that took 20 hours and resulted in six figures of additional tax due. And that calculation is going to have to be done every year. I suspect that by the time all of the regulations are written to explain this "simplification", they will have added a few hundred pages to the U.S. income tax laws (between the code, regulations, and notices/rulings). And that does not even account for the new case law that will develop around the changes to international provisions.

There is no universe where the recently passed tax bill simplifies anything at all.

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A- If that was your thesis topic, you picked a simple one! Very few people honestly believe that a flat tax would be a possibility, but NOBODY has suggested that the new bill will not simplify the tac code going forward

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Um, again, the new law simplified jack shite. It has/will add hundreds of pages of additional complexity. And I didn't pick the topic, it was assigned to me. And it was a complex topic actually - discuss the pros/cons of the current system, a flat tax, and a value added tax and whether the U.S. would be likely to go to either in the future.

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A-bullshite! We're already seeing what cutting corporate taxes is doing for the economy in the way of increased salaries, expansion, and bringing overseas companies back home where they'll pay "the going rate" on corporate taxes around the world!...and you can book that!

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increased salaries - Lol. Wage growth has not increased at all under trump. It is still the same, about 2%, barely keeping up with inflation.

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expansion

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- What? Companies have been sitting on record amounts of cash for years now. Having a bit more from tax cuts is certainly not leading to any significant expansion.

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bringing overseas companies back

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No evidence of this happening to any significant extent and it is not going to. Do you not realize the companies that have gone overseas, like Apple to Ireland, have gone to take advantage of jurisdictions with zero or single digits tax rates?? And now they are going to "come back home" for 21% rates?

You are really lost. I assume you watch Fox News. Studies have shown Fox News viewers know less than those who watch no news at all due to all the misinformation Fox puts forth (as I think you have just proved very well).

You have to be born a liberal. No other way you could become that stupid. If NBC and CNN are your MSM selections then you're dirt road stupid.

Josey seems both upset and really deep.

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It's not that at all. But If I want to consider someone elses opinion concerning politics (for example) I will ask the person whose opinion I value on the subject

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What, and then they write an op-ed?

I'm not sure what you are bitching about. Nobody is talking about your communications with your buddies.

This is about anyone in the news giving an opinion, whether it is an op-ed or a quote in a new article. Why are you focused on discounting sports figures when you aren't discounting other figures?

The solution is easy. Try to understand the context of the speaker and consider that when reading the opinion.

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There is no "carve out" for opinions. First Amendment - Religion and Expression. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

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"the freedom of speech" and "the press" are two different things. One is the right to express your opinion, one is the right to publish the news. The "news" has to be supportable facts. The constitution does not give the right to people with press credentials to say whatever they want just because they say it during a news cast.

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"the freedom of speech" and "the press" are two different things. One is the right to express your opinion, one is the right to publish the news. The "news" has to be supportable facts. The constitution does not give the right to people with press credentials to say whatever they want just because they say it during a news cast.

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This is your original statement

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Constitution guarantees freedom of the press. But when newscasters are giving opinions/agendas that aren't news, then they aren't protected

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That's nonsense. If you have a case that supports that, provide it. If not, stop repeating the error.

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Well, Saban is a Dem, so what statement is he making by going, exactly?

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That regardless of who the current tenant is, Saban and his players are part owners of that effing house.

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That's nonsense. If you have a case that supports that, provide it. If not, stop repeating the error.

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Ok tell you what. Let NBC news get on the air, interrupt prime time TV, announce an emergency alert that a nuclear missile has been launched via Russian submarine targeting New York City, all the while knowing it is a complete hoax when they do it. See if they are protected by the constitutional freedom of the press from all the consequences.

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What, and then they write an op-ed?

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Seriously? is an athlete the first person you go to for political knowledge and opinion? I would go to someone who I respect that is a bit more of an expert on politics and/or world affairs. I am not asking Tom Brady what his opinion is on treaties or tax reform. I don't have to wait for expert political/world affairs opinion. But when I read about an athlete I want to know about sports. It's simple, really.

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I'm not sure what you are bitching about. Nobody is talking about your communications with your buddies.

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And I haven't said anything about buddies. I said people whose opinions I respect.

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This is about anyone in the news giving an opinion, whether it is an op-ed or a quote in a new article. Why are you focused on discounting sports figures when you aren't discounting other figures?

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You obviously haven't been reading my posts. I specifically have said I don't care to hear about political opinions from Athletes, SINGERS or ACTORS. Did you miss that? I also want financial advice from financial people. In short, if you want good guidance you go to experts.

Want good advice on money? Go to somebody who is rich. Politics? A politician. Sports? An athlete.
I don't care about a politicians advice would be to win the Super Bowl, either. Maybe you are not understanding me or are being purposely obtuse? If I am reading about sports get me an expert on sports.