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Posted on 12/29/25 at 11:44 am to TideSaint
It is incredible how quickly they managed to ruin football once they sunk their teeth in. There is almost nothing in common with this game than the game of 10/15 years ago. Glad some rich people got paid though, totally worth it.
Posted on 12/29/25 at 11:44 am to TexasWranglers
quote:yeah no
This season, literally this season there were more than 12 teams.
Posted on 12/29/25 at 11:51 am to ThePoo
Going to agree to disagree then. Vandy, Texas, ND, etc all had claims.
Posted on 12/29/25 at 11:53 am to ThePoo
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I can't think of a season where there were 12 teams deserving of competing for a national championship
because it's never happened in history. There are rarely and I mean RARELY any years where even 5 or 6 teams truly and honestly deserve the shot.
Obviously, this is only about money and any other rationale is just a bold faced lie. It's sickening that within 5 years we're going to have teams with 4 losses barely even ranked making the playoffs. I mean hell if damn near every team in the polls makes the playoffs wtf is even the point?
Posted on 12/29/25 at 11:56 am to TideSaint
Again, this is beyond retarded.
There arent 12 teams capable of winning the playoff, let alone 16 or 24.
All this is now is a money grab.
They will continue to kill the sport and tradition that is College football and will water down the regular season games even more where it just really will not matter.
Hell, at this point, lets just get rid of the regular season and conf championships and start the playoff the first week.
Everyone is in, and each week is an elimination game.
There arent 12 teams capable of winning the playoff, let alone 16 or 24.
All this is now is a money grab.
They will continue to kill the sport and tradition that is College football and will water down the regular season games even more where it just really will not matter.
Hell, at this point, lets just get rid of the regular season and conf championships and start the playoff the first week.
Everyone is in, and each week is an elimination game.
Posted on 12/29/25 at 12:00 pm to TexasWranglers
quote:had claims to being the 12th team or being in the playoff, not to being deserving of a championship shot
Going to agree to disagree then. Vandy, Texas, ND, etc all had claims.
ND's only decent win was USC
Texas had 3 losses and a loss to 4-8 Florida
What is Vandy's best win? 8-4 tennessee? 8-5 mizzou?
Thats not worthy
In the BCS years we would you think twice about 9-3 Texas not getting a championship shot? why?
This post was edited on 12/29/25 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 12/29/25 at 12:08 pm to ThePoo
So you are saying it should be 8 team playoff only? If it’s a 12 team playoff and there are several teams that have a claim to the 12 spot it shows it’s flawed.
Either do away with auto bids and move to 16 or given the lack of SoS in the criteria you will always have issues.
Texas beats a cupcake and is 10-2 this season should OU be out then? Were they not worthy?
It’s currently a very flawed system unless you do away with auto bids and get the best 12 teams
Either do away with auto bids and move to 16 or given the lack of SoS in the criteria you will always have issues.
Texas beats a cupcake and is 10-2 this season should OU be out then? Were they not worthy?
It’s currently a very flawed system unless you do away with auto bids and get the best 12 teams
Posted on 12/29/25 at 12:12 pm to ThePoo
What other sport meets the test of "is a team worthy of winning a championship" for teams to make the post season. There will always be football teams in high school and the pros that make the post season but have no shot at the title. Its the dumbest fricking argument ever.
Everyone argued that 4 was too many when it expanded from 2 teams, yet the #8 seed beat the #7 seed last year to win the championship. Right now less than 10% of the teams make the post season. That's a little too exclusive for my taste.
And the lower seeds will occassionally knock off the higher seeds, which is awesome, whether they win the championship or not.
Everyone argued that 4 was too many when it expanded from 2 teams, yet the #8 seed beat the #7 seed last year to win the championship. Right now less than 10% of the teams make the post season. That's a little too exclusive for my taste.
And the lower seeds will occassionally knock off the higher seeds, which is awesome, whether they win the championship or not.
This post was edited on 12/29/25 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 12/29/25 at 12:24 pm to TexasWranglers
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an Indiana fan
Only one because a relative is playing on the team right now. Plus I do like Cignetti a lot.
Even if Bama got relegated, I'd love to see it put into action.
Tier I: 32 teams
Tier 2: next 32 teams
Tier 3: next ....
Each tier having its own championship.
Each tiers switch out the bottom 2 or 4 with top 2 or 4 of the next tier down and so forth.
But I realize it's pretty wild compared to what we have now.
The UK uses it for soccer and it's a smashing success. Every team at any time of the season always has something to play for.
Theoretically, any team (including my wife and I's favorite, Banbury Pilgrims) at some point can eventually earn a shot at a championship.
Posted on 12/29/25 at 12:30 pm to TexasWranglers
quote:8 is too many
So you are saying it should be 8 team playoff only?
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If it’s a 12 team playoff and there are several teams that have a claim to the 12 spot it shows it’s flawed.
Yes flawed, just because multiple teams have claim to the 12 spot does not mean they should have a shot at the 1. never in the modern history of college football until the last couple years have we ever been concerned about who was worthy of a number 12 ranking when it comes to winning a championship. We always knew they were not. i do not think expanding the playoff suddenly makes the accomplishments of thir season any more worthy.
Why should I feel bad about texas not getting in now when no one would've ever concerned themselves with texas not being in just 3 years ago and they would not be arguing for it. All that expanding a playoff at this point does is cause us to concern ourselves with teams we would have never given another thought about in all of modern cfb history and now we want to expand and concern ourselves with more 3 loss teams, great
quote:OU was very clearly not worthy of competing for a championship, that is an easy answer
should OU be out then? Were they not worthy?
This post was edited on 12/29/25 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 12/29/25 at 12:31 pm to TideSaint
At some point, the number of regular season games will have to be reduced by 3-4 if you go to a significantly larger pool of playoff teams (16-20)
Posted on 12/29/25 at 12:35 pm to bigDgator
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There will always be football teams in high school and the pros that make the post season but have not shot at the title. Its the dumbest fricking argument ever.
No its not, the argument is when there are already teams we know arent worthy competing, why expand it to include more that are not? what is the point in that? I will tell you, it is $$$
Are are you waiting for the year a group of 5 team breaks the ankle of a starting QB on a good team in a game that shouldn't even be played? Untlike other sports we watch, football is a much more brutal and physically taxing sport
quote:I am not going to argue about the seeding system from last year as everyone knew it was awful and thus it was changed
Everyone argued that 4 was too many when it expanded from 2 teams, yet the #8 seed beat the #7 seed last year to win the championship. Right now less than 10% of the teams make the post season. That's a little too exclusive for my taste.
Additionally what ended up happening again? A big Brand with top tier talent won again, like always
This post was edited on 12/29/25 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 12/29/25 at 12:41 pm to Nasty_Canasta
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So Sankey will get criticized no matter what position he takes on this
What Sankey is pushing for is this:
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16-team model that would include the five highest-ranked conference champions and 11 at-large bids
Posted on 12/29/25 at 12:49 pm to ThePoo
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4 was good,
4 was fine until 2023.
Undefeated ACC champs FSU got left out.
12-0 #1 ranked UGA defending champ, lost SECCG and got left out.
This post was edited on 12/29/25 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 12/29/25 at 12:59 pm to deeprig9
4 wasn’t perfect, but it was good. 6 with byes for top seeds seems about as good as you can get.
And you need to get rid of the committee. There needs to be a knowable and determinable methodology for choosing the teams. Should never be at the whim of a buncha of biased individuals deciding in secrecy
And you need to get rid of the committee. There needs to be a knowable and determinable methodology for choosing the teams. Should never be at the whim of a buncha of biased individuals deciding in secrecy
Posted on 12/29/25 at 1:02 pm to TideSaint
Might as well go all in:
-10 game regular season to assign seeding.
-End conf Championship games
-128 team playoff.
- two teams in the finals play a 17 game season.
Yet, we'd still hear teams 129-132 bitching about getting screwed. This continual expansion is silly.
8 teams with a BCS model is sufficient. Top 8 play. No auto-bids
-10 game regular season to assign seeding.
-End conf Championship games
-128 team playoff.
- two teams in the finals play a 17 game season.
Yet, we'd still hear teams 129-132 bitching about getting screwed. This continual expansion is silly.
8 teams with a BCS model is sufficient. Top 8 play. No auto-bids
Posted on 12/29/25 at 1:29 pm to TexasWranglers
Just make the entire season one big tournament. Lose 6 games and you’re out. Just keep it going all season long
Posted on 12/29/25 at 2:00 pm to bigDgator
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What other sport meets the test of "is a team worthy of winning a championship" for teams to make the post season.
College football wasn’t like every other sport, and what’s why everyone loved it so much
Posted on 12/29/25 at 2:37 pm to ThePoo
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No its not, the argument is when there are already teams we know arent worthy competing, why expand it to include more that are not?
Who in the frick gets to decide who is "worthy of competing?"
This would be like paring the high school playoffs so that only a small few are allowed to make the post season. It's insane. There are 1st round blowouts in every level of post season competition, including football, and there is already a model in FCS of a great way to make it work.
Your argument is like the one they made for not expanding the basketball tournament when only 8 teams were invited. I can guarantee you that a team ranked higher than 12 will win the national championship at some point. So to say they aren't worthy of competing is crazy.
If it were up to you we should just crown the preseason #1the champ. No need to play the games because no one else is worthy.
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