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Posted on 5/30/24 at 10:05 am to meansonny
Posted on 5/30/24 at 10:05 am to meansonny
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I could link 20 podcasts from networks detailing what should happen prior to the announcement of teams and another 20 podcasts from after the announcement detailing what just happened. But that won't sway you in the least.
No it wouldn’t, because I referenced a direct quote from the actual College Football Playoff committee chair, you know the guy in charge of who gets in the playoff. As well as statistical facts. Like having an awful SOS ranking of 55. 22 rankings lower than the lowest SOS playoff team. I didn’t reference a bunch of fricking sports nerds talking into a microphone about their subjective opinion.
This post was edited on 5/30/24 at 10:08 am
Posted on 5/30/24 at 10:38 am to FireDanMullen
If Georgia's SOS was better than Michigan, should Georgia be in the playoff?
Posted on 5/30/24 at 10:45 am to FireDanMullen
According to you, Georgia would have to win three games against top 10 opponents and another game against a top 20 opponent to be in the playoff.
Michigan beat one top 10 opponent, one top 15 opponent, and one top 25 opponent to get into the playoffs.
But because Georgia couldn't win that third game against a top 10 opponent, they don't deserve to get in.
Michigan beat one top 10 opponent, one top 15 opponent, and one top 25 opponent to get into the playoffs.
But because Georgia couldn't win that third game against a top 10 opponent, they don't deserve to get in.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 10:46 am to meansonny
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If Georgia's SOS was better than Michigan, should Georgia be in the playoff?
Keep moving the goal posts. I said the injured QB was a factor, I just also happen to point out you saying it was “100% the decision” was incorrect. And then provided stats and quotes from the CFP chair backing strength of schedule. You can just admit you were wrong instead of constantly changing your narrative. Or not. I don’t really care at this point if you’re just choosing to ignore facts lol
Posted on 5/30/24 at 10:52 am to FireDanMullen
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just also happen to point out you saying it was “100% the decision” was incorrect.
It is 100% the decision in context.
If FSU was blowing teams out with their 3rd string QB, they get in. Just like Ohio State.
The offense looks like dogwater with the 3rd string qb and they win despite him, they get left out. The head of the playoff committee can say whatever words float through his skull. If they are scoring 50+ with the 3rd string QB, he's keeping the #4 team going into the playoff selection at #4.
The BS about strength of schedule (which didn't really change after conference championship week) is just talk. Because if it mattered after championship week, it should have mattered before.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 10:52 am to meansonny
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According to you, Georgia would have to win three games against top 10 opponents and another game against a top 20 opponent to be in the playoff. Michigan beat one top 10 opponent, one top 15 opponent, and one top 25 opponent to get into the playoffs. But because Georgia couldn't win that third game against a top 10 opponent, they don't deserve to get in.
I haven’t commented on Georgia or Michigan once. This is the problem when one person debates with direct quotes, facts, and stats and the other one speculates with conjecture and hypotheticals.
Somehow you incorrectly saying FSU was left out “100% because of their injured QB” and being called out for being wrong has spiraled into a Michigan vs Georgia hypothetical. Just take the L buddy.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 10:55 am to FireDanMullen
The Michigan Georgia hypothetical is in opposition to your argument about strength of schedule mattering more (you and I both know that the playoff committee doesn't give a shite about strength of schedule. Their words don't mirror their actions).
It isn't a straw man. It isn't out of left field. It is an example of a man's words explaining his decisions just being words with no meaning.
The playoff committee is wildly inconsistent and constantly talking out of both sides of their arguments.
Do you disagree with that statement?
It isn't a straw man. It isn't out of left field. It is an example of a man's words explaining his decisions just being words with no meaning.
The playoff committee is wildly inconsistent and constantly talking out of both sides of their arguments.
Do you disagree with that statement?
Posted on 5/30/24 at 10:59 am to meansonny
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It is 100% the decision in context. If FSU was blowing teams out with their 3rd string QB, they get in. Just like Ohio State. The offense looks like dogwater with the 3rd string qb and they win despite him, they get left out. The head of the playoff committee can say whatever words float through his skull. If they are scoring 50+ with the 3rd string QB, he's keeping the #4 team going into the playoff selection at #4. The BS about strength of schedule (which didn't really change after conference championship week) is just talk. Because if it mattered after championship week, it should have mattered before.
This is all conjecture. Just like you saying Florida or anyone in the SEC other than Bama or Georgia get left out at 13-0 and limping to 13-0 with a 3rd string QB.
The problem with hypotheticals is this:
You can’t compare an FSU acc schedule to a strong Strength of schedule. Use Florida as example. Florida has had a top 20 Strength of schedule the last 5 years. Crawling your way to 13-0 with a 3rd string QB and winning the SEC is a lot different than the ACC who finished with one ranked team.
In this hypothetical Florida (or any SEC team really) is also beating a most likely top 6 team in Atlanta (given the SEC has a playoff cusp team in Atlanta every year the last 5 years outside of LSU in 2022) and winning said game with 3rd string QB. Now is that the same as beating a shite Louisville team in Charlotte? Or finishing the year with one victory over a ranked team?
These hypotheticals are hardly a way to argue but here you are and I’m still somehow dismantling you despite my disdain for them.
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Posted on 5/30/24 at 11:07 am to meansonny
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The Michigan Georgia hypothetical is in opposition to your argument about strength of schedule mattering more
It certainly matters to a degree.
Michigan nearly had a top 25 SOS. FSU’s was 55. Michigan beat a top 10 Penn State team at PS, beat #2 Ohio State, and dismantled a ranked Iowa team. FSU beat LSU in a neutral site in week 1. And… that’s pretty much it. Now I’ll concede the games at the end of the year matter more if that’s one of your points. But other than that, Michigan’s schedule was certainly weaker than Georgia’s but I think anyone with a brain could see FSU schedule was an utter joke.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 11:09 am to FireDanMullen
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I’m still somehow dismantling you
Lol
You do know that your strength of schedule is tougher when you lose 7 games.
Teams tend to move down in rankings (impacting strength of schedule) when you beat them.
Do you mind looking over the AP final rankings?
Tell me which 2 loss SEC teams jumped 3 loss non SEC teams.
You can go back prior seasons.
I presume that you stand on principle that the SEC is the toughest conference.
And you stated that a 2 loss SEC team will be given favor over a 3 loss team.
I'm curious your reasoning for such a statement.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 11:11 am to FireDanMullen
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But other than that, Michigan’s schedule was certainly weaker than Georgia’s but I think anyone with a brain could see FSU schedule was an utter joke.
Are you saying that the playoff committee was brainless then?
They had FSU #4 in the rankings with the joke of a schedule the week before playoff selections.
Or did they change the basis for their playoff choices at the last minute (like they do every year).
What changed in week 12 and week 13?
Posted on 5/30/24 at 11:16 am to FireDanMullen
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These hypotheticals are hardly a way to argue
I've asked for factual examples to support your argument.
What team lost and didn't move down in the polls?
What team lost and moved up in the polls because their strength of schedule would reward them after the game?
Those are in direct point to your argument that strength of schedule matters more than losses.
Your argument that the playoff committee is wise enough to look past one team's losses and reward them on strength of schedule.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 11:17 am to meansonny
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You do know that your strength of schedule is tougher when you lose 7 games.
Are you implying Florida doesn’t have a strong of strength of schedule at all bc they lose games? Bama is consistently in the top 25 strength of schedule. As are most SEC schools, even the ones that win all their games. I think LSU finished 3 in 2019 despite winning 15 games. Anymore “gotcha” moments?
Posted on 5/30/24 at 11:18 am to FireDanMullen
I didn't imply anything.
I was explicit.
The more games you lose, the more you boost your strength of schedule rankings.
But you are going to try and argue that point. Lol
I was explicit.
The more games you lose, the more you boost your strength of schedule rankings.
But you are going to try and argue that point. Lol
Posted on 5/30/24 at 11:19 am to bamaoldtimer
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Also, what about players before 2016? Why are they being left out?
I heard the explanation that the lawsuit/s was filed in 2020 and there is a four year statute of limitations.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 11:20 am to meansonny
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I've asked for factual examples to support your argument. What team lost and didn't move down in the polls?
TCU literally a year ago. They lost in the conference championship and stayed at #3. Bc - wait for it - the committee said their overall strength of schedule warranted it. Interpret that how you will, Nietzsche. I’ll be waiting for anything else ya got
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Posted on 5/30/24 at 11:21 am to FireDanMullen
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Anymore “gotcha” moments?
It's funny that you are clinging to this notion that teams do not move down in the polls after they lose.
This is as close to a college football fact as any fact in all of college football.
But it goes against your arguments that strength of schedule matters more than losses (despite your very own strength of schedule improving every time you lose)
Posted on 5/30/24 at 11:22 am to meansonny
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It's funny that you are clinging to this notion that teams do not move down in the polls after they lose. This is as close to a college football fact as any fact in all of college football. But it goes against your arguments that strength of schedule matters more than losses (despite your very own strength of schedule improving every time you lose)
TCU 2022. Look her up. I’ll be waiting for when you move the goal posts on this one.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 11:23 am to FireDanMullen
I did reference playoff.
So there's your gotcha.
Are you now going to argue that TCU didn't move down in the polls because of their strength of schedule improving?
Or did it have anything to do with the playoff committee manufacturing how the playoff teams align?
... not having Michigan and Ohio State rematch in round 1 of the playoffs.
... setting up the possibility that Michigan and Ohio State could face one another in the finals.
So there's your gotcha.
Are you now going to argue that TCU didn't move down in the polls because of their strength of schedule improving?
Or did it have anything to do with the playoff committee manufacturing how the playoff teams align?
... not having Michigan and Ohio State rematch in round 1 of the playoffs.
... setting up the possibility that Michigan and Ohio State could face one another in the finals.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 11:25 am to FireDanMullen
I'm shocked that the playoff committee focuses on strength of schedule so much in 2022 that they manufacture the team seedlings solely on strength of schedule.
It isn't as if... they make shite up the minute before they have to publish the list. The list which suits 100% of their own personal interests.
It isn't as if... they make shite up the minute before they have to publish the list. The list which suits 100% of their own personal interests.
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