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Posted by FireDanMullen
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Posted on 5/29/24 at 6:51 pm to
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You are going to ignore the QB situation? 100% of the discussion about whether FSU should be in or out surrounded the QB situation. Not the strength of schedule. You know this. Why the sudden amnesia?


Ohio State got in with a 3rd string QB. The injury to the QB certainly played a factor im not denying that — but does an undefeated Bama or Georgia get left out with their 1st string QB out? No, and it’s really not even a debate.

FSU’s schedule was a joke.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 5/29/24 at 6:51 pm to
I haven't seen or read about the comments.

The "out the arse" has been referenced for Kirby hundreds of times (he gives hundreds of interviews a year).
Kirby uses the media to talk to his players and recruits.

I'm sure even Florida fans have seen cases where this has been pointed out and you don't follow the team or the coach
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 5/29/24 at 6:53 pm to
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How exactly? I’m saying their weak schedule kept them out. Despite the fact they beat an SEC team out of conference. Their schedule was still so weak overall it didn’t matter


They beat two SEC teams out of conference, on the road, as a matter of fact.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 5/29/24 at 6:53 pm to
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Ohio State got in with a 3rd string QB


He won the conference championship game 59-0.

You are having fun leaving out pertinent information.

Why start being intellectually honest now?
Posted by FireDanMullen
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Posted on 5/29/24 at 6:55 pm to
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I haven't seen or read about the comments. The "out the arse" has been referenced for Kirby hundreds of times (he gives hundreds of interviews a year). Kirby uses the media to talk to his players and recruits. I'm sure even Florida fans have seen cases where this has been pointed out and you don't follow the team or the coach



If you haven’t read what I’m talking about and immediately say it’s something it isn’t — you’re talking out of your arse. That’s literally the definition of speaking on something you don’t know anything about. Thanks for speaking definitively on something with zero knowledge whatsoever.
Posted by FireDanMullen
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Posted on 5/29/24 at 6:57 pm to
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You are having fun leaving out pertinent information. Why start being intellectually honest now?


So do you want to address if an undefeated Bama or Georgia gets left out to with their first string QB out?

Or do you just want to ironically be the one leaving out pertinent information? Lmao i didn’t know someone could be so hypocritical in 30 characters or less
Posted by FireDanMullen
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Posted on 5/29/24 at 6:59 pm to
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They beat two SEC teams out of conference, on the road, as a matter of fact.


Beating Florida is nothing to brag about. You haven’t even addressed your point so thanks for your input
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 5/29/24 at 7:03 pm to
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you’re talking out of your arse. That’s literally the definition of speaking on something you don’t know anything about.


No, if he was literally talking out of his arse, he'd have lips, a tongue, teeth, and vocal chords inside of his rectum.

You have problems with the English language.
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 5/29/24 at 7:05 pm to
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Beating Florida is nothing to brag about. You haven’t even addressed your point so thanks for your input


Which point of mine have I not addressed? Please refresh my memory, if you would be so kind sir.
Posted by FireDanMullen
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Posted on 5/29/24 at 7:06 pm to
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No, if he was literally talking out of his arse, he'd have lips, a tongue, teeth, and vocal chords inside of his rectum. You have problems with the English language.


Thanks are you done jerking off your buddy for moral support or do you want to keep cucking out in this convo? You seem like you like to watch others a lot so lmk
Posted by FireDanMullen
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Posted on 5/29/24 at 7:07 pm to
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Which point of mine have I not addressed? Please refresh my memory, if you would be so kind sir.


Idk why you’re addressing me other than cucking out to minor grammar mistakes on a sports board so keep watching the show if you want cuck it’s nothing to me lol
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 5/29/24 at 7:12 pm to
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Idk why you’re addressing me other than cucking out to minor grammar mistakes on a sports board so keep watching the show if you want cuck it’s nothing to me lol


Hey meansonny, I know you are in the Woodstock area and I'm way over in Grayson, would you mind meeting up halfway with me at Eataliano's in Brookhaven so you can frick my wife in the bathroom while I watch, and we can post pics for FireDanMullen to satisfy his theory?
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 5/29/24 at 8:00 pm to
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If you haven’t read what I’m talking about and immediately say it’s something it isn’t — you’re talking out of your arse. That’s literally the definition of speaking on something you don’t know anything about. Thanks for speaking definitively on something with zero knowledge whatsoever.


You're welcome


I admitted that I hadn't read the interview.
I disagree about your interpretation of "out of your arse". I didn't make shite up. I explained that I didn't make shite up (eventhough it was irrelevant to the interview that I had not seen).
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 5/29/24 at 8:08 pm to
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quote:
You are having fun leaving out pertinent information. Why start being intellectually honest now?


So do you want to address if an undefeated Bama or Georgia gets left out to with their first string QB out?



Sure. Since it seems you are leaving pertinent information out again.

1) UGA, Bama, and Ohio State do not get left out with an 8 or 9 game conference schedule. They are currently different than everyone else in college football right now.
Do you disagree that it would be wrong to associate the same treatment for a UGA and (insert your favorite/least favorite ACC team)?

2) Florida could be left out. Especially if the 3rd string QB shits the bed and the team wins despite the offense.
You could insert a dozen SEC schools here if the offenses look like dog water.

Do you want to pick another argument and use Bama or UGA as your example? Because of all of that intellectual honesty you've been waiving around in this thread.

Now if Florida goes undefeated and the 3rd string QB wins the conference championship game 53-0, then there is a different outcome (like Ohio State in 2014... just as a reminder to you for the pertinent information that led to the history that we both can easily recount)
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 5/29/24 at 8:11 pm to
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Hey meansonny


FDM goes through days where he is coherent.

And then stretches like today where he will ignore 90% of history to argue a point.

He's got his period or something like it. I don't know why he jekyl/hydes so much. He's fricking weird.
Posted by FireDanMullen
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Posted on 5/30/24 at 9:10 am to
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1) UGA, Bama, and Ohio State do not get left out with an 8 or 9 game conference schedule. They are currently different than everyone else in college football right now. Do you disagree that it would be wrong to associate the same treatment for a UGA and (insert your favorite/least favorite ACC team)? 2) Florida could be left out. Especially if the 3rd string QB shits the bed and the team wins despite the offense. You could insert a dozen SEC schools here if the offenses look like dog water.


This is complete subjective conjecture so there’s no point in arguing. An undefeated 13-0 SEC champion isn’t getting left out in any scenario. This is so absurd to even write — and the way in which you write like it’s a fact when you have 0 evidence to back it up — shows a complete lack of having a constructive debate in order to substantiate your baseless point that is the hill you’re willing to die on.

Arguing a 13-0 SEC champion could be left out like Florida state is just beyond moronic but then again this is a guy commenting on articles he’s never even read as “coach speak” stick to your daughters softball games and working on your beer gut — you are coming off as a jackass
This post was edited on 5/30/24 at 9:12 am
Posted by FireDanMullen
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Posted on 5/30/24 at 9:17 am to
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Nope. Strength of schedule doesn't trump losses when comparing what we traditionally know as P5 teams. You lose a game, you move down. Every time up until the playoffs start. A team might be the top 1 loss team or top 2 loss team. But they are clustered with the other losing teams.


“If we’re going to get more teams in (the college playoff) by playing nine, I vote for that,” Smart said. “If we’re going to have a strength of schedule factor that says that these teams that play these really hard teams, they should be allowed to have two or three losses and get in, then I’m for it.”

Coach speak everyone.
Posted by FireDanMullen
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Posted on 5/30/24 at 9:24 am to
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You are going to ignore the QB situation? 100% of the discussion about whether FSU should be in or out surrounded the QB situation. Not the strength of schedule. You know this. Why the sudden amnesia?


Bill Hancock, executive director of the College Football Playoff, gave the following two reasons:

“FSU’s strength of schedule was not as strong as the four teams that were ranked ahead of them. As I’m sure you are aware, strength of schedule is a key metric the Committee takes into consideration. If being undefeated without regard to a team’s strength of schedule was part of our protocol, other universities with undefeated records would have routinely been considered for the Playoff. There have been eight, counting Florida State, undefeated teams that did not make the Playoff. While this is the first year such a team was from a so-called P5 conference, strength of schedule remains a crucial factor.”
For reference — Florida State’s final strength of schedule ranking was 55. No. 1 seed Michigan was 33, No. 2 Washington was 11, No. 3 Texas was 13 and No. 4 Alabama was No. 5.

Hmmm sure doesn’t sound like 100% of the discussion was the QB being out. Again, the QB being out was a factor in their decision. But you saying it’s 100% is categorically wrong. The opinion of an armchair QB having a cold one after his 9-5 doesn’t outweigh the actual facts.

Thanks for playing.
This post was edited on 5/30/24 at 9:29 am
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 5/30/24 at 9:46 am to
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Coach speak everyone.


Thanks for linking the quote. I've watched 2 podcasts on spring meetings since yesterday and kirbys comments haven't come up.

Can you show me evidence of a team not moving down in the polls after a loss (prior to playoffs)?
Is there evidence of a team moving up in the polls after a loss? You know... because the strength of schedule improved after the game.

I have wished that strength of schedule matters more.
We can argue "what should be".
We can argue "what people say excusing their behavior and decisions".

But the reality is simple. And it has been frustrating for over 20 years.
There is no reward for scheduling tough games. If you lose (with odds of winning being 50/50), you go down in the polls. You win, you remain with the other undefeateds (maybe at the head of the pack of undefeateds... but you are still in that grouping of teams).

If I had the magic wand, losses would be ignored.
Rank each team's best wins side by side. If the game was a loss, then that is one potential win that they don't get to stack. That's the consequence.

Because once you start punishing teams for losses, you are punishing teams for a tough schedule.

If I schedule 12 top 20 programs and win 8 of them, that should be regarded over a team who schedules 3 or 4 top 20 programs and wins all of them.

Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 5/30/24 at 10:03 am to
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Hmmm sure doesn’t sound like 100%


I could link 20 podcasts from networks detailing what should happen prior to the announcement of teams and another 20 podcasts from after the announcement detailing what just happened.

But that won't sway you in the least.

As I posted earlier, those responsible for BCS/playoff entry speak to their decisions every single year. And every single year, their words are hollow as they are inconsistent with every prior year's statement. They serve the public a shite sandwich with their remarks and watch the public consume it.
What words can they string together which kind of make sense but have no empirical meaning. It is kind of like writing the lyrics to a song. Each listener can interpret a meaning. The author doesn't really give a frick so long as he doesn't have to write another one for another year.
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