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re: Returning SEC QBs : 2018 Passer Rating vs End of Year AP Top 25 Teams

Posted on 6/24/19 at 3:58 pm to
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 3:58 pm to
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Oh, so that's why you removed UGA from the equation. Makes sense now.


You know why I removed UGA, you literally responded to the exact reason listed. UGA was #29 in pass defense.

Wonder why you included them?
This post was edited on 6/24/19 at 4:00 pm
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:00 pm to
Yeah. We wouldn't want his performance under pressure to affect his stats.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:01 pm to
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Yeah. We wouldn't want his performance under pressure to affect his stats.



"Under Pressure" vs "Playing with an injured leg" is not exactly the same thing, but you do you Pat

If you or Willy wanted to include his stats vs the Top 30ish pass defenses (as opposed to the "best pass defenses") it is weird how you included #29 UGA but not #31 Auburn.

Weird, wonder why?
This post was edited on 6/24/19 at 4:03 pm
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:09 pm to
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Yep, I'll take it

That wasn't the question.

It was whether or not he folded vs good defenses:

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Average Game vs Top 15 Pass Defenses
20/32 (63%)
1.7 TD
1.3 INT
136.94 Passer Rating

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The 11 Cupcakes:
174/232 (75%)
3.36 TD
0 INT
248.8 Passer Rating
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:10 pm to
Tua vs Top 5 Pass Defenses( #2 MSU, #4 LSU)
39/63 (61.9%)
230 YPG
7.29 YPA
3 TD
2 INT
132.47 Rating

Tua vs Top 25 Pass Defenses (#2 MSU, #4 LSU, #15 Clemson)
61/97 (62.9%)
251 YPG
7.77 YPA
5 TD
4 INT
136.94 Rating

Tua vs Top 35 Pass Defenses (#2 MSU, #4 LSU, #15 Clemson, #29 UGA, #31 Auburn)
96/154 (62.3%)
248 YPG
8.06 YPA
11 TD
6 INT
145.86 Rating
This post was edited on 6/24/19 at 4:14 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:11 pm to
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It was whether or not he folded vs good defenses:



So a 136.94 Passer Rating vs the best defenses faced = folding Willy?

Interesting

What would you call a 139.11 Passer Rating vs the best defense faced by a QB then (only ranked #23)?

This post was edited on 6/24/19 at 4:13 pm
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:14 pm to
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I think I've read on here recently that 'Tua folds like a lawn chair against any good team.'
It doesn't matter where a team is ranked if the game is on the line and the QB crumbles under pressure. He can run those stats up all he wants but fact is Tua didn't do anything when it matter last year.
This post was edited on 6/24/19 at 4:17 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:16 pm to
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game is on the line and the QB crumbles under pressure. Tua didn't do anything when it matter.


He's never made a big play in a pressure situation when it mattered. Dude is a crumbling choker when the lights are brightest and the pressure highest.
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:17 pm to
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Top 30ish pass defenses (as opposed to the "best pass defenses")

Just name the top defenses he played and look at the numbers compared to the other games!

This makes the whole 'look at muh ranking' thing silly:

Posted by FiddleHead
Knoxville, TN
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:18 pm to
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4. Jarrett Guarantano (Tennessee) - 138.90 (5)


Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:18 pm to
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Just name the top defenses he played and look at the numbers compared to the other games!

This makes the whole 'look at muh ranking' thing silly:


Oh Willy, you are such an old school sky screamer!

Nobody uses "Yards Allowed" anymore! Get with the program!
This post was edited on 6/24/19 at 4:21 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32912 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:19 pm to
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People are sleeping on Terry Wilson.


They really aren’t.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:20 pm to
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They really aren’t.





I was trying to spread the love around
This post was edited on 6/24/19 at 4:21 pm
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50429 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:21 pm to
Was Mond #1 vs Lsu and Clemson?
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:22 pm to
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Removing UGA as his leg was mangled..........



lol. Don't be like the AU fans that try to pass off the SECCG by saying kerryon was hurt. Tua was clearly fine enough to be playing in that game, and his own lineman injured him to put him out of the game. Bama fans just aren't used to seeing tua get disprected like we did and like clemson would do a few games later.

I'm surprised you of all people would try to skew stats in one direction because of bias.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:22 pm to
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Was Mond #1 vs Lsu and Clemson?





Yep - pretty insane.

vs Clemson/LSU
46/89
727 yards
8.17 YPA
9 TD
0 INT
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
13363 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:22 pm to
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He's never made a big play in a pressure situation when it mattered. Dude is a crumbling choker when the lights are brightest and the pressure highest.
Basically. His career consists of a big pass play year before last and choking consistently against the best team he played last year.

Now show what the other QBs did against those same defenses.
This post was edited on 6/24/19 at 4:25 pm
Posted by MykTide
Member since Jul 2012
25495 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:23 pm to
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LSU + Clemson + UGA + State:
71/123 (57%)
918 yards (229.5 ypg)
6 TDs (1.5 per game)
6 INTs (1.5 per game)
8 sacks (2 per game)


It's even worse when you put all the cupcakes in the correct category.

Clemson + UGA + State:
46/81 (56.7%)
623 yards (207.7 ypg)
4 TDs (1.3 per game)
5 INTs (1.7 per game)
7 sacks (2.3 per game)

Good defenses make all the difference.


Posted by WilliamTaylor21
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Member since Dec 2013
35930 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:23 pm to
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Nobody uses "Yards Allowed" anymore! Get with the program!

What would you prefer? Anything for you Georgie!

JUST GIVE ME THE RANKING YOU WANT!
Posted by CrimsonDynasty
Member since Jan 2019
733 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:24 pm to
Interesting how you blend his stats vs LSU in your argument to make it look like Tua played poorly vs the corn dogs. He played very well vs LSU minus the 1 int.

Go ahead and include LSU in the cupcake list. 29-0 definitely qualifies as a cupcake beatdown.
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