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Posted on 3/30/16 at 5:19 am to FishFearMe
Posted on 3/30/16 at 5:19 am to FishFearMe
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Wish we had joined many years ago.
TAMU was in 100 years ago, as was Texas, but folks in austin got TAMU to leave when Texas founded the SWC. This is why Loftin alluded to the "100 year decision" to rejoin the old SIAA teams in the SEC.
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Posted on 3/30/16 at 10:42 am to greenbastard
38 up votes says everyone hates aggy
Posted on 3/30/16 at 11:09 am to Shakita Bonita
"The University of Texas" in your sig line says you are seriously Aggsessed.
Posted on 3/30/16 at 11:25 am to CGSC Lobotomy
Love your "b-b-b-but the corps is military thing" line of BS.
The aggie corps is a civilian organization, no different than the Rotary Club or the IHOP Birthday Free Pancake Club. The overwhelming majority of members of the aggie corps pack up their fake uniforms after four years playing dress up and pretend army and are never commissioned as officers. These are all unassailable facts.
The overwhelming majority of students that attend a military academy do so because they intend to serve their country as active duty officers. the overwhelming majority of students who join the aggy corps do so because they want to play dress up and claim some fabricated sense of self importance. In total numbers and as a percentage of the student body, Aggies see no more ROTC members commissioned after graduation than does UT. Both schools see about 200 ROTC graduates commissioned each year. In addition to seeing about 200 ROTC graduates commissioned each year, many UT students are reservists or guardsmen. I am sure at least 60 students on the UT campus are veterans. In fact, we have a former journalism major on campus who is a veteran. He is the UT System Chancellor who rose to a higher rank than any aggie graduate has ever achieved, so I guess one could say if one wanted to rise to the rank of a four-start flag officer, they would stand a much better chance if they studied journalism at UT Austin instead of wasting four years playing dress-up and fake army at TAMU.
The facts are the facts.
The aggie corps is a civilian organization, no different than the Rotary Club or the IHOP Birthday Free Pancake Club. The overwhelming majority of members of the aggie corps pack up their fake uniforms after four years playing dress up and pretend army and are never commissioned as officers. These are all unassailable facts.
The overwhelming majority of students that attend a military academy do so because they intend to serve their country as active duty officers. the overwhelming majority of students who join the aggy corps do so because they want to play dress up and claim some fabricated sense of self importance. In total numbers and as a percentage of the student body, Aggies see no more ROTC members commissioned after graduation than does UT. Both schools see about 200 ROTC graduates commissioned each year. In addition to seeing about 200 ROTC graduates commissioned each year, many UT students are reservists or guardsmen. I am sure at least 60 students on the UT campus are veterans. In fact, we have a former journalism major on campus who is a veteran. He is the UT System Chancellor who rose to a higher rank than any aggie graduate has ever achieved, so I guess one could say if one wanted to rise to the rank of a four-start flag officer, they would stand a much better chance if they studied journalism at UT Austin instead of wasting four years playing dress-up and fake army at TAMU.
The facts are the facts.
Posted on 3/30/16 at 12:01 pm to bigbopper
I've never commented on their "Corps", but as a veteran, I find them insulting. I'm not a guy that wears or adorns his vehicle with Marine Corps, combat veteran, etc. paraphernalia, but I have walked the walk. To insinuate or even convince oneself that putting on an outfit, getting a haircut, and being hazed in a Lord of the Flies type of environment makes you "military" chaps my arse. I respect TAMU, but they take the cadets way too seriously and try to sell them way too hard to people that know first hand what leadership is, what sacrifice and loss is, what fatigue and fog of war is, what overcoming fear and fighting is, and what Iraqi sand tastes like. They have a good school. They have a good athletic department. They have a bunch of kids in paramilitary gear.
Posted on 3/30/16 at 12:30 pm to BurlesonCountyAg
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Once an aggie, always an aggie.
I read where a Former Student who is tragically in the end stages of pancreatic cancer, fearing he wouldn't live long enough to watch his own daughter graduate from A&M, had her graduation ceremony moved up and held at the family's home.
THAT is the Aggie Network in action.
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for the dad dying way too soon).Posted on 3/30/16 at 12:51 pm to bigbopper
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Love your "b-b-b-but the corps is military thing" line of BS.
No one says this. Everyone understands that not all of the people in the corps will go on to military careers.
Posted on 3/30/16 at 12:55 pm to G2160
congrats, you have the worst income to championships ratio in the country
Posted on 3/30/16 at 12:59 pm to roguetiger15
And you just have the worst income.
Posted on 3/30/16 at 1:09 pm to Snizzzo
Robert Gates does not share your sentiments.
Posted on 3/30/16 at 1:13 pm to G2160
So salty
Posted on 3/30/16 at 1:26 pm to Snizzzo
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I've never commented on their "Corps", but as a veteran, I find them insulting. I'm not a guy that wears or adorns his vehicle with Marine Corps, combat veteran, etc. paraphernalia, but I have walked the walk. To insinuate or even convince oneself that putting on an outfit, getting a haircut, and being hazed in a Lord of the Flies type of environment makes you "military" chaps my arse. I respect TAMU, but they take the cadets way too seriously and try to sell them way too hard to people that know first hand what leadership is, what sacrifice and loss is, what fatigue and fog of war is, what overcoming fear and fighting is, and what Iraqi sand tastes like.
As someone who is entering his 17th year of Active Duty, and someone who has commanded in Accessions Command (USAAC, who runs both ROTC and Recruiting), I find your gross ignorance infuriating.
1. Do yourself a favor and look up the section in Title 10 that governs and describes Senior Military Colleges. What A&M, Virginia Tech, the Citadel, VMI, North Georgia Military Academy, and Norwich do is EXACTLY what is described in that and what you apparently find "insulting".
2. I've noticed over the last 16 years that the ones who use the "I've served, so I understand better than you do" card to judge or denigrate others tend to be those who haven't served beyond 4-5 years and those who had "routine" (but no less meaningful) assignments and the ones who were the true "badasses" or the ones who have served 10 years or more tend to not discuss it as much, or at least not use it as a weapon against others.
3. There's a monument in front of the quadrangle at A&M honoring all those that died in service to our country since the Korean War. Since I commissioned, there have been enough names added to fill 3 panel sections.
4. As someone who has done three deployments in Iraq and one in Afghanistan, I find your last comment disgusting, as many of those in the cadet corps are veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan and many more soon will be.
Posted on 3/30/16 at 1:46 pm to bigbopper
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bigbopper
Let me dissect your falsehoods one by one.
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Love your "b-b-b-but the corps is military thing" line of BS.
You clearly have never served in any capacity, especially not in USAAC (Army Accessions Command, which runs both recruiting and ROTC). I commanded in one of those organizations for two years and had direct access to the raw data of commissioning and military association.
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The overwhelming majority of students that attend a military academy do so because they intend to serve their country as active duty officers
The overwhelming majority of Military Academy graduates get out after their initial 5-year obligation. I'm talking 75%+. There's nothing wrong with that. With the largest branch of service (Army) having to reduce to 450,000 by FY18 and the first classes of USMA below 1,000 since post-WWII starting up this year, this is expected and even encouraged.
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the overwhelming majority of students who join the aggy corps do so because they want to play dress up and claim some fabricated sense of self importance.
Personal opinion isn't fact or anywhere close to it.
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In total numbers and as a percentage of the student body, Aggies see no more ROTC members commissioned after graduation than does UT.
Completely false. Just using my commissioning group as an example, A&M commissioned 74 officers on May 13, 2000. Across the entirety of Texas' campus in academic year 1999-2000, there were 45 total ROTC cadets of all branches. Between December 1999 and August 2000 (encompassing Year Group 2000), there were 213 Aggie Lieutenants and Ensigns commissioned.
Doing simple math, 13 (the actual number commissioned from my year group from Texas across all services) out of 42,000 = .031%. 213 out of 44,000 = .48% Or, using even simpler math, 0.48 / 0.031 = 15.4
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Both schools see about 200 ROTC graduates commissioned each year.
Texas doesn't even have 50 cadets combined in all of their ROTC programs in total in any one year! There are only about 9,000 total ROTC cadets commissioned across the country and all schools in any one year.
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He is the UT System Chancellor who rose to a higher rank than any aggie graduate has ever achieved,
A simple Google search can prove this wrong.
Otto Weyland - 1923 (USAF)
Bernard Schriever (USAF, This base is named after him) - 1931
Joseph Ashy - 1962 (USAF)
Patrick Gamble - 1967 (USAF)
Hal Hornberg - 1968 (USAF)
Michael Mosley - 1971 (Former Chief of Staff of the Air Force - the top officer in that branch)
William Frasier - 1974
That's 7 4-stars in case you can't count.
Just to put the cherry on top, this base, before it became a joint base, was named after one of our Congressional Medal of Honor recipient (no one ever "wins" the CMoH, they earn it). The Airfield, Carswell Field is still named after Horace S. Carswell Jr.
The facts are the facts, moron.
This post was edited on 3/30/16 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 3/30/16 at 1:56 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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CGSC Lobotomy
He won't have a rebuttal to this arse whipping until randy duke posts about it again so that he can copy/paste.
Posted on 3/30/16 at 2:00 pm to G2160
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He won't have a rebuttal to this arse whipping until randy duke posts about it again so that he can copy/paste.
Is that before or after we get the results of his long talk with Secretary Gates...or was it Panetta...or was it Hagel...or was it Carter...which results in A&M losing their status as a Senior Military College and the revocation of any and all commissions granted to A&M cadets?
Posted on 3/30/16 at 2:55 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Not a military college. You are once more living in a fantasy world. But Aggies are gonna Aggie I suppose.
Posted on 3/30/16 at 3:08 pm to bigbopper
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In the fall of 1941, the Corps numbered nearly 6,600 cadets. Advance fall freshman registration due in some part to draft deferments, recruiting by individual branches within the Corps such as the coastal artillery and engineers, as well as overbooking in the dorms sent a clear signal to the A&M administration that the 1941-42 academic year would be a record (enrollment) for the college.
Book on aggy corps
Which used this as the source (the campus newspaper):
ROTC Contract Exempt Aggies from Army Draft
Battalion, Aug. 1940
Posted on 3/30/16 at 3:25 pm to texashorn
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ROTC Contract Exempt Aggies from Army Draft
Once again, officers don't get drafted, they get commissioned. Getting drafted into enlisted positions is not the only way that people join the military.
Your attempt to imply that Aggies avoided service by going ROTC is hilariously inept.
Posted on 3/30/16 at 3:29 pm to bigbopper
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Not a military college
Direct from the 10th U.S. Code, LINK
"(f)Senior Military Colleges.—The senior military colleges are the following:
(1) Texas A&M University.
(2) Norwich University.
(3) The Virginia Military Institute.
(4) The Citadel.
(5) Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University.
(6) The University of North Georgia."
Don't confuse "senior military college" with "military academy". Completely different purpose and scope.
How about I tell you all I know about being a shitty blogger and you tell me all you know about being a military officer and we'll see how much legitimate content either provides.
This post was edited on 3/30/16 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 3/30/16 at 3:35 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Just a quick recap on this thread went.
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