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re: Regarding LSU's 2019 legendary team; What if UGA runs the table?
Posted on 7/31/24 at 2:06 pm to jangalang
Posted on 7/31/24 at 2:06 pm to jangalang
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11 multiple pro bowlers
13 total pro bowlers
38 draft picks
1 National Championship
Alabama had 11 pro bowlers in 2022 alone. Hell, even Mac Jones made the pro bowl in 2021.
It's not an accomplishment towards being considered the GOAT.
Alabama had 10 players drafted last year. 10 in 2023, 7 in 2022, 10 in 2021. That's 37 drafted in just the past 4 years.
41 if you want to count from 2017-2020, and I can probably find similar numbers across many other 4 year spans, that's just the previous 4 years.
Again, I don't see where this is at all an indication of being the GOAT. Some of those teams were pretty good, but none of them considered the GOAT. Some like the 2019 team had major holes due to injuries despite the overall talent.
This post was edited on 7/31/24 at 2:07 pm
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Posted on 7/31/24 at 2:10 pm to WG_Dawg
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Rankings at game time are utterly irrelevant.
Wrong...
Posted on 7/31/24 at 2:14 pm to 3down10
'you lost to a bama team last year...'
True, no shame in losing to a Saban coached team. But uh, I'd like to remind you, if you have enough brain cells in your head to comprehend it; Saban is gone. And by the way, the last 3 seasons? UGA has lost a total of 2 games. Bama on the other hand, has lost 2 games PER season the last 3 years.
True, no shame in losing to a Saban coached team. But uh, I'd like to remind you, if you have enough brain cells in your head to comprehend it; Saban is gone. And by the way, the last 3 seasons? UGA has lost a total of 2 games. Bama on the other hand, has lost 2 games PER season the last 3 years.
Posted on 7/31/24 at 2:16 pm to 3down10
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Yeah, tell us all about that 8-5 "Top 10" Texas team you only beat by 7 points
I can, I can also tell you about beating Bama that same year in BDS, that same Bama team that lost to a 9-4 Auburn team that was beaten my Minnesota in a bowl game...
Posted on 7/31/24 at 2:17 pm to LSURulzSEC
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Rankings at game time are utterly irrelevant.
Wrong...
Take off your P&G glasses for a minute and put on your thinking cap. Let's use some logic and critical thinking skills.
-In 2017 bama started the season against NUMBER 3 ranked FSU. TOP 5 WIN baby. Unfortuantely FSU would lose 6 games and be nowhere close to ranked.
-A few years later they opened with top 15 Miami. Nice ranked win!! Unfortuantely miami lost 5 games and was nowhere close to ranked
-the next year they beat top 20 arkansas. Arkansas ended the regular season 6-6.
See a trend here? Claiming seven "top 10" victories when half those teams didn' finish in the top 10 is just disingenuous.
Posted on 7/31/24 at 2:25 pm to Darindawg
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True, no shame in losing to a Saban coached team. But uh, I'd like to remind you, if you have enough brain cells in your head to comprehend it; Saban is gone. And by the way, the last 3 seasons? UGA has lost a total of 2 games. Bama on the other hand, has lost 2 games PER season the last 3 years.
Before Saban, Alabama had 11 national championships. Saban added 6 more.
Before Kirby, Georgia had 1.
While Kirby was able to copy a lot of shite from Alabama, history was not one of them. You are the school that has only had success under a few coaches, not Alabama.
And 66% of your success was when you didn't have to play Alabama.
This post was edited on 7/31/24 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 7/31/24 at 2:25 pm to WG_Dawg
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what is wild about it, exactly?
The fact that UGA isn’t going to be the best team in the SEC, much less the nation, much less of all time.
That’s what’s wild.
Posted on 7/31/24 at 2:29 pm to LSURulzSEC
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I can, I can also tell you about beating Bama that same year in BDS, that same Bama team that lost to a 9-4 Auburn team that was beaten my Minnesota in a bowl game...
If you want to point out the weakness of one of your actual legitimate top10 wins that year because you think it's going to hurt my feelings, be my guest.
Of course, these are also teams you only beat by 3 and 5 points. Such a great team, but can barely beat their opponents? LSU could only beat Auburn by 3, Minnesota did it by 7. Maybe Minnesota is the GOAT.
I beat Minnesota wouldn't give up 38 points to a 3-9 Vandy team.
This post was edited on 7/31/24 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 7/31/24 at 3:36 pm to SouthernInsanity
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2019 LSU - SEC teams EoY rankings. 1, 4, 6, 8 and 14 2020 bama - SEC teams EoY rankings. 1, 4, 7 and 13
Okay?
Alabama beat 5 top 10 teams in 2020 and LSU beat 4. Nothing you said changes that fact.
Posted on 7/31/24 at 3:42 pm to Dairy Sanders
I think Georgia would have to have multiple guys also shattering NCAA records and winning tons of individual awards. They do all that and go 16-0, they are in that conversation and you tip your cap.
Posted on 7/31/24 at 3:51 pm to Dairy Sanders
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That 2019 LSU’s rep (with LSU fans) doesn’t match its reality. They always tout “Most wins over top 10 teams in history” when they only beat 4 teams that finished in the top 10. Alabama beat 5 in 2020 in 2 less games.
Wut?
This post was edited on 7/31/24 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 7/31/24 at 3:52 pm to Dairy Sanders
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Okay?
Alabama beat 5 top 10 teams in 2020 and LSU beat 4. Nothing you said changes that fact.
What rankings are you using?
Posted on 7/31/24 at 3:55 pm to 3down10
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Alabama had 11 pro bowlers in 2022 alone. Hell, even Mac Jones made the pro bowl in 2021. It's not an accomplishment towards being considered the GOAT. Alabama had 10 players drafted last year. 10 in 2023, 7 in 2022, 10 in 2021. That's 37 drafted in just the past 4 years. 41 if you want to count from 2017-2020, and I can probably find similar numbers across many other 4 year spans, that's just the previous 4 years. Again, I don't see where this is at all an indication of being the GOAT. Some of those teams were pretty good, but none of them considered the GOAT. Some like the 2019 team had major holes due to injuries despite the overall talent.
I think you are fricking retarded.
Find your best season and lets just compare that roster to Miami's.
Minkah Fitzpatrick isnt comparable to HOF Ed Reed, Sean Taylor, Antrel Rolle, and so on.
Take a lap.
Posted on 7/31/24 at 4:15 pm to AwgustaDawg
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its all subjective, there is no real quantitative measure
I think we're probably on the precipice of a real change here in terms of "the modern era" regarding all sorts of records.
It's going to be really hard to look back pre-portal, pre-NIL, pre-realignment, etc. and say that all of these comparables still equate to one another.
Decades from now (if not sooner), if the sport is still around, this will probably be when a lot of statistics essentially started over to some degree, especially when the last vestiges of amateurism are totally gone.
Posted on 7/31/24 at 4:51 pm to jangalang
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I think you are fricking retarded.
Find your best season and lets just compare that roster to Miami's.
Minkah Fitzpatrick isnt comparable to HOF Ed Reed, Sean Taylor, Antrel Rolle, and so on.
Take a lap.
I'm not going to do it. I just did the past 8 years randomly to show it's the same level of talent Alabama has based on the stats you quoted.
Now you just want to move goal posts.
The fact you talk more about individual NFL careers than what the college team itself accomplished is all the proof I need.
Posted on 7/31/24 at 5:10 pm to 3down10
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Now you just want to move goal posts.
I camped out there from the start.
You made an egregious claim that 2001 Miami with a championship mind you was Bama's average team.
#laughable
Posted on 7/31/24 at 6:12 pm to skrayper
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1945 Army
Anything else is unpatriotic.
Alabama should definitely claim the '45 NC.
Posted on 7/31/24 at 6:21 pm to Dairy Sanders
These are EoY rankings of the SEC teams that each team played. LSU finished having beaten 4 SEC teams that finished in the top 10... bama with 3. It's not difficult.
Posted on 7/31/24 at 7:20 pm to SouthernInsanity
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These are EoY rankings of the SEC teams that each team played. LSU finished having beaten 4 SEC teams that finished in the top 10... bama with 3. It's not difficult.
The SEC was grossly under-rated in 2020 due to there not being any OOC games. Teams from other conferences who played less games etc were being ranked above SEC teams they clearly shouldn't have been. It showed in the bowl games too.
Posted on 7/31/24 at 7:34 pm to jangalang
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I camped out there from the start.
You made an egregious claim that 2001 Miami with a championship mind you was Bama's average team.
#laughable
You posted the metrics that you claimed backed up your position. I showed you that by those metrics, it was in fact Alabama's average team over at least the past 8 years.
You then started talking about HOF and crap that is basically impossible to compare since the Alabama players are still playing and aren't even eligible. That's moving the goal posts.
So eat a dick Lucy.
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