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Posted on 8/5/25 at 3:32 pm to VFL67
My thought is I don't care how Texas is ranked on this list or how it's perceived by outsiders. But for me personally as a fan 2024 was more satisfying than 2023, and I certainly think the 2024 team was better.
For one, the outcome of the OU game doesn't mean anything to you. But it sure means a lot to me, most Texas fans, and most Sooner fans. SEC fans can't understand how much we hate each other, because you guys are dismissive of anything outside of the SEC. Doesn't matter. I'm not here to educate you. Sooner fans on here get it.
In 2023 we lost in a heartbreaking fashion when Dillon Gabriel helped the Sooners drive down to score a TD. It was an exciting finish, but it felt like a choke job to me and most Texas fans in what is always one of the most important games of the year. I'm glad we ended up winning the conference, but that game will stick in my craw for the rest of my life. In many ways way more than the loss to Washington in the playoffs.
The 2024 team would run circles around the 2023 squad. We lost the defensive tackles and yet our line play improved overall. The depth was better. The pass rush was way better. The secondary was pretty awful in 2023, and it ended up costing us against Penix and those Husky wide receivers. Still had a chance to win in the end, but couldn't get the ball in the end zone.
The 2024 season validated the results of 2023 in a powerful way. In the last 40 years Texas has had several outlier seasons where we did well for one year, only to fall immediately back into mediocrity. 1990. 1995. Sort of 1996. 2018. 2024 was a clear signal that wasn't going to be the case this time. It was the inaugural SEC season. I realize SEC fans want to discount making it to the championship game because of the strength of schedule, but the truth is that team beat Vanderbilt and OU, something Alabama couldn't do, and Florida/Kentucky, something Ole Miss couldn't do. We beat Arkansas, something Tennessee couldn't do.
SEC fans want to have it both ways. The SEC is the toughest conference from top to bottom. Any team can lose to almost any other team. Look at the upsets! You can't look past anyone! (except Mississippi State). But then Texas has the easiest schedule! They didn't play LSU, Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Ole Miss, South Carolina. The SEC office was bought out!
In any case, making it to the SEC championship game in our inaugural season was more powerful to me than winning the Big 12 in our last season there. And the Big 12 championship was meaningful to me. Knowing that we won the SWC in its last year, won the Big 12 in its first season (in a ridiiculous upset of a juggernaut Nebraska squad) and then bookended it with a win in our last season there with every Big 12 member including the commissioner openly rooting against us, was incredibly satisfying. Especially since we only won 4 of them. Mack Brown only won 2 conference championships in his entire career.
I don't want to be a bridesmaid every year in the SEC championship game. I still feel like we should have won that game but didn't. But the losses to Georgia both times don't bother me as much as that loss to OU in Dallas in 2023.
But if you want to say the Tennessee team in 2022 was better than any Sarkisian coached Texas team, I don't have a problem with it. I don't really care.
For one, the outcome of the OU game doesn't mean anything to you. But it sure means a lot to me, most Texas fans, and most Sooner fans. SEC fans can't understand how much we hate each other, because you guys are dismissive of anything outside of the SEC. Doesn't matter. I'm not here to educate you. Sooner fans on here get it.
In 2023 we lost in a heartbreaking fashion when Dillon Gabriel helped the Sooners drive down to score a TD. It was an exciting finish, but it felt like a choke job to me and most Texas fans in what is always one of the most important games of the year. I'm glad we ended up winning the conference, but that game will stick in my craw for the rest of my life. In many ways way more than the loss to Washington in the playoffs.
The 2024 team would run circles around the 2023 squad. We lost the defensive tackles and yet our line play improved overall. The depth was better. The pass rush was way better. The secondary was pretty awful in 2023, and it ended up costing us against Penix and those Husky wide receivers. Still had a chance to win in the end, but couldn't get the ball in the end zone.
The 2024 season validated the results of 2023 in a powerful way. In the last 40 years Texas has had several outlier seasons where we did well for one year, only to fall immediately back into mediocrity. 1990. 1995. Sort of 1996. 2018. 2024 was a clear signal that wasn't going to be the case this time. It was the inaugural SEC season. I realize SEC fans want to discount making it to the championship game because of the strength of schedule, but the truth is that team beat Vanderbilt and OU, something Alabama couldn't do, and Florida/Kentucky, something Ole Miss couldn't do. We beat Arkansas, something Tennessee couldn't do.
SEC fans want to have it both ways. The SEC is the toughest conference from top to bottom. Any team can lose to almost any other team. Look at the upsets! You can't look past anyone! (except Mississippi State). But then Texas has the easiest schedule! They didn't play LSU, Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Ole Miss, South Carolina. The SEC office was bought out!
In any case, making it to the SEC championship game in our inaugural season was more powerful to me than winning the Big 12 in our last season there. And the Big 12 championship was meaningful to me. Knowing that we won the SWC in its last year, won the Big 12 in its first season (in a ridiiculous upset of a juggernaut Nebraska squad) and then bookended it with a win in our last season there with every Big 12 member including the commissioner openly rooting against us, was incredibly satisfying. Especially since we only won 4 of them. Mack Brown only won 2 conference championships in his entire career.
I don't want to be a bridesmaid every year in the SEC championship game. I still feel like we should have won that game but didn't. But the losses to Georgia both times don't bother me as much as that loss to OU in Dallas in 2023.
But if you want to say the Tennessee team in 2022 was better than any Sarkisian coached Texas team, I don't have a problem with it. I don't really care.
This post was edited on 8/5/25 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 8/5/25 at 3:35 pm to VFL67
Everything you’ve written about Purdue football is true, and was true before this thread was begun.
On the other hand — beyond the whole “Heupel cream” angle you obviously had — you started it with the hope of having some interesting discussion, yet here you’ve ended up repeatedly posting about Purdue football.
HAHAHAHA
On the other hand — beyond the whole “Heupel cream” angle you obviously had — you started it with the hope of having some interesting discussion, yet here you’ve ended up repeatedly posting about Purdue football.
HAHAHAHA
This post was edited on 8/5/25 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 8/5/25 at 3:36 pm to Radio One
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Everything you’ve written about Purdue football is true, and was true before this thread was begun.
On the other hand — beyond the whole “Heupel cream” angle you obviously had — you started it with the hope of having some interesting discussion, yet here you’ve ended up repeatedly posting about Purdue football.
HAHAHAHA
Purdue has more losing seasons than winning seasons.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 3:37 pm to VFL67
Thread fail makes me laugh.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 3:39 pm to Radio One
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Thread fail makes me laugh.
Purdue has never had a streak of more than 3 consecutive 8-win seasons.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 3:44 pm to VFL67
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I personally think 2023 Texas was better than 2024.
You are an idiot if you think Mizzou and Ole Miss are in the same convo as that Tennessee team (which was number 1, beat two top 10 teams, and won in Death Valley by 30). All of which are things Mizzou and Ole Miss didn't come close to. Also had the SEC Player of the year and Biletnikoff winner. Better wins, better players, and higher ranking end of year lol
You talmbout that same amazing 2022 Tennessee team that gave up 63 points to an 8-5 South Carolina team?
Posted on 8/5/25 at 3:53 pm to VFL67
This list confirms what I have always said: the SEC has only one current coach with a national title, which proves that it was a two-team league.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 3:54 pm to VFL67
I would put 2022 LSU over 2023. Both teams were 9-3 regular season. 2022 LSU beat Bama and won the west.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 4:07 pm to BuckI
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This list confirms what I have always said: the SEC has only one current coach with a national title, which proves that it was a two-team league.
I don't understand. Dabo Swinney, Kirby Smart, and Ryan Day are the only active coaches with a national title.
Did I miss where Dabo Swinney coaches in the Big Can't Count league?
This post makes no sense.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 4:19 pm to SL Xpress
It is simple, why does the SEC have only 1 coach with a national title if it was so superior?
Posted on 8/5/25 at 4:26 pm to BuckI
Because the others were fired or retired? It's not a secret. Chizik won a title. Orgeron won a title. Jimbo Fisher won a title, although not in the SEC. Some other guy I can't think of won 7.
Harbaugh won a title, too. He's gone. Urban Meyer won 3, but of course 2 of those were in the SEC. Mack Brown won a title but was forced out this past offseason.
You're making a stupid point. And asking for clarification simply clarifies its stupidity for me.
Harbaugh won a title, too. He's gone. Urban Meyer won 3, but of course 2 of those were in the SEC. Mack Brown won a title but was forced out this past offseason.
You're making a stupid point. And asking for clarification simply clarifies its stupidity for me.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 4:26 pm to BuckI
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This list confirms what I have always said: the SEC has only one current coach with a national title, which proves that it was a two-team league.
The SEC has twice as many coaches to have won a national championship since 2000 as the B1G has teams to have won a national championship since 1948.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 4:36 pm to SL Xpress
quote:No, your conference pride will not allow you to admit it. Chizik and O had once-in-a-lifetime talents at QB, while Saban and Smart built franchises.
You're making a stupid point. And asking for clarification simply clarifies its stupidity for me.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 4:58 pm to VFL67
How the hell is Heupel number 2 and how is that crack compared to the other?
This post was edited on 8/5/25 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 8/5/25 at 5:50 pm to Gatorbait2008
Yea some geo fan criticized BK for losing 4games a year after taking over a dumpster fire at LSU. I guess he didn’t know Nick Sabans 1st 3years as tiger coach he lost 4 games a year and he inherited a full roster where as BK started with a 45 man roster with 0 depth on the O/D lines.The BK hate is real all over the SEC including LSU.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 5:51 pm to BuckI
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No, your conference pride will not allow you to admit it.
Hahahahahahaha! I have no conference pride. You're mistaking me for someone else. I only care about Texas and think the SEC as a whole is beneath us.
And I am mistaking you for someone with at least two synapses firing, when clearly that is not the case.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 6:08 pm to VFL67
Missouri finished ranked higher in the polls than Ole Miss in 2023, and also beat a better team in their bowl game.
It's splitting hairs but I think Mizzou gets the nod (in my obviously biased opinion).
It's splitting hairs but I think Mizzou gets the nod (in my obviously biased opinion).
Posted on 8/5/25 at 6:14 pm to VFL67
Texas won their conference and made the playoffs. Tennessee didn't even win their division
And 2024 Texas>Tennessee as well, it's not even debatable
And 2024 Texas>Tennessee as well, it's not even debatable
Posted on 8/5/25 at 7:11 pm to VFL67
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1. Smart: UGA 2022 (National Champs) 15-0
Losing to Bama in 21, aside, I’d say the 21 season was more dominant. They defense was so good they could have punted on every first down and still won 12 games.
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