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Posted on 12/18/23 at 10:11 am to RollTide1987
Single season would be Cam or Burrow. Career would be Tebow or Wuerffel.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 10:14 am to GoGators1995
I'd put Young over Wuerffel, but sure.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 10:20 am to RollTide1987
Cam
Burrow
Jayden
Burrow
Jayden
Posted on 12/18/23 at 10:20 am to jonnyanony
Not for career. Danny is the most decorated QB in SEC history.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 10:24 am to rolltide32
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I want to say Burrow at #1 because of how insane his numbers were on top of them going undefeated and winning a national championship but I don't think there's a guy on this list nearly as valuable as Cam Newton was to that Auburn team.
Thats always my problem with the Heisman. It should go to the best player which this year, IMHO, would have been Marvin Harrison but went to the player most valuable to his team in Jayden Daniels.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 10:28 am to GoGators1995
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Danny is the most decorated QB in SEC history.
And for how high the saints drafted him.... he was the worst.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 10:32 am to SouthernInsanity
Which has nothing to do with this thread.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 10:42 am to StopRobot
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Thats always my problem with the Heisman. It should go to the best player which this year, IMHO, would have been Marvin Harrison but went to the player most valuable to his team in Jayden Daniels.
How do you figure (unless this is just an attempt to troll)?
Marvin Harrison Jr. definitely had good numbers, but there are a lot of negatives as well:
1. Ohio State's schedule was not terribly impressive.
2. He was 9th in yards per game (11th when just including FBS games)
3. His TD totals were first, but tied for 1st with several other WRs
4. Compared to the last WR to win the award, his numbers are very pedestrian
5. In the Notre Dame game, that OSU barely won, he was very mediocre.
6. In fact, only two games could you say his production had any REAL impact on the game (Wisconsin and Penn State).
There might be other people you can argue in favor of over Jayden Daniels, but the only person who might have had a chance going into the last 4-5 games was, IMO, Ollie Gordon - but being unable to run against both UCF and Texas (when it mattered most for his team) killed any chance of him being mentioned in the same breath as Daniels, much less actually contending with him.
Daniels was, IMHO, the best player AND the most critical to what success their respective teams actually had. LSU without him is probably .500 or a game above; Ohio State's record is, probably at worst, one more loss with Harrison.
This post was edited on 12/18/23 at 10:51 am
Posted on 12/18/23 at 10:47 am to skrayper
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unless this is just an attempt to troll
That's all it was.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 10:48 am to SouthernInsanity
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And for how high the saints drafted him.... he was the worst.
The entire NFL outside of the Mike Ditka-lead Saints knew he wasn't NFL material.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 10:51 am to rolltide32
quote:Yep... There's an argument anyone in the SEC west other than Ole Miss would have won a title with Cam, plus probably 2 east teams. Hard to say any other QB could have won a ship with half the SEC.
Auburn was 29th in DF+ in 2010. F+ ratings go back to 2007. No other team ranked outside the teens has won a national championship.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 12:03 pm to ALhunter
quote:Auburn's second half defense was one of the best in the country though. Just ask bama. They only scored 3 points in the second half due to a muffed punt. Completely shut them down
Yep... There's an argument anyone in the SEC west other than Ole Miss would have won a title with Cam, plus probably 2 east teams. Hard to say any other QB could have won a ship with half the SEC.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 12:21 pm to RollTide1987
On stats alone I would say Burrow, but if you consider other factors like elusiveness it would be a tie between Cam and Manziel.
Manziel with like a greased pig, running around like his hair was on fire, flinging the ball around without a care in the world.
But was a huge bust after college.
Manziel with like a greased pig, running around like his hair was on fire, flinging the ball around without a care in the world.
But was a huge bust after college.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 12:22 pm to RollTide1987
It’s hard to compare QB’s from different eras. The game has evolved in many ways to bolster passing stats.
I hate it, but for me since 1990. Ps. I gotTo see all of these play in person.
1. Cam - mainly because without him, that was a 5 or so loss team.
1a - Burrow. Burrow wasn’t a runner per se, but I’ve never seen a QB in person with better pocket presence. He was great at climbing the pocket with minimal movement. Side step to the right, move up and buy enough time to find an open receiver.
2. Daniels - similar to Cam. What would LSU’s record be without him.
3. Bryce - flames incoming, but he’s the 2nd best I’ve ever seen in person (after burrow) at working the pocket and finding time. He also had a weaker WR group than some of the others on this list and Bill OBrien as a coordinator.
4. Wuerffel - even since the 90s, the passing game has evolved significantly. Wonder what his stats would look like in a 2020’s offense.
5. Tebow - sheer will.
Last - Manziel. I think he was overrated. How many balls did he throw up for grabs and get bailed out by Evans.
I hate it, but for me since 1990. Ps. I gotTo see all of these play in person.
1. Cam - mainly because without him, that was a 5 or so loss team.
1a - Burrow. Burrow wasn’t a runner per se, but I’ve never seen a QB in person with better pocket presence. He was great at climbing the pocket with minimal movement. Side step to the right, move up and buy enough time to find an open receiver.
2. Daniels - similar to Cam. What would LSU’s record be without him.
3. Bryce - flames incoming, but he’s the 2nd best I’ve ever seen in person (after burrow) at working the pocket and finding time. He also had a weaker WR group than some of the others on this list and Bill OBrien as a coordinator.
4. Wuerffel - even since the 90s, the passing game has evolved significantly. Wonder what his stats would look like in a 2020’s offense.
5. Tebow - sheer will.
Last - Manziel. I think he was overrated. How many balls did he throw up for grabs and get bailed out by Evans.
This post was edited on 12/18/23 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 12/18/23 at 12:37 pm to RollTide1987
For college QB - Tebow, then the rest.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 1:35 pm to RollTide1987
Easily top:
Burrow
Newton
Really close together, but none earned award on championship team:
Tebow (leads due to winning BCS later in career.)
Daniels
Manziel
Icon of a changing game:
Weurffel
Epitome of a college QB, but may not translate to NFL:
Young
Stats don't compare, but stood out in an era of RB Heismans
Sullivan
Spurrier
QB play of the time not anything we would recognize today:
Sinkwich
Burrow
Newton
Really close together, but none earned award on championship team:
Tebow (leads due to winning BCS later in career.)
Daniels
Manziel
Icon of a changing game:
Weurffel
Epitome of a college QB, but may not translate to NFL:
Young
Stats don't compare, but stood out in an era of RB Heismans
Sullivan
Spurrier
QB play of the time not anything we would recognize today:
Sinkwich
Posted on 12/18/23 at 1:39 pm to RollTide1987
JFF
Posted on 12/18/23 at 1:55 pm to RollTide1987
Does Johnny come with or without Mike Evans?
Posted on 12/18/23 at 2:10 pm to RollTide1987
How many quit their teams?
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