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Posted on 2/15/14 at 10:45 pm to Captain Rumbeard
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So in 2010 he loses three games. Two of them to LSU and USCe and Auburn but you can throw that Auburn win out as an anomaly because of Cam Newton.
In 2011 he loses to LSU again.
So in 2011 and 2012 who do you think he's recruiting to beat? It's not Auburn and it's certainly not Texas A&M. He's recruiting to beat LSU. And he did a damn good job of it. The problem is that then he discovered that he'd overdone it. His linebackers can't compete with HUNH and he's been paying the price for that ever since. The Process doesn't work against it. His program is not built to deal with it. He can stop some versions of it, but it's becoming obvious pretty fast that more and more offenses will be going to this, and then LSU hires Cam fricking Cameron so if he goes all in to deal with HUNH he knows he's going to be losing to LSU again.
What to do?
Normal coaches adapt but Saban isn't normal. He fancies himself above the game. So he goes all in to change the game to suit himself. Because that would be easier.
And that's just the way it is gumps. He's been exposed. He didn't learn the lesson Gus taught him the first time because he attributed it all to Cam Newton.
Sucks to be you because if he doesn't get this passed, you're at least a year behind the curve while LSU has been stopping this shite from the get go.
Posted on 2/15/14 at 10:51 pm to GeauxLSU8
To be fair, most people attributed the 2010 Auburn team to Cam Newton.
Miles and Chavis are not most people apparently.
Miles and Chavis are not most people apparently.
Posted on 2/15/14 at 10:52 pm to RedMustang
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Nicky said it's not safe,
Nope, he never said that. Here is what he's said..see below from an AL.com article on tracking what Saban has said. , he mostly he asked a question about is the game supposed to continuous and will it cause more injuries.
? Should the offense be in control of substations? How about the offense can only sub if the defense subs? Or should there be an equal chance for both the offense and defense sub after each play?
quote:s in that?
There's only two questions that I've ever had. You've heard me talk about this before, I'm not going to speak on it now. I don't have the answer to these questions. Should we allow football to be a continuous game? Is that the way the game was designed to play?
"And the second part of it is, and I don't have the answer to this, is an increased number of plays that players play in the game, is there any safety issue
Posted on 2/15/14 at 11:01 pm to RedMustang
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What's passed him by is the coaching strategy, not recruiting. That won't change until the REC money dries up.
You're really dumb if you believed your post. Saban can't coach and the only reason hr wins is because the REC is buying players... What a load of ITAT shite.
So, in order to be a good coach he has to win more than he has? Undefeated every year? 3 of 5 isn't good enough for you to think he's a great coach? Absurb...
Posted on 2/15/14 at 11:07 pm to spacewrangler
So he went straight from wanting to seek information to answer his questions, to making rule changes.
In other words the quote you are so happy to share was in fact a BS answer to cover up his real agenda.
In other words the quote you are so happy to share was in fact a BS answer to cover up his real agenda.
This post was edited on 2/15/14 at 11:08 pm
Posted on 2/15/14 at 11:10 pm to spacewrangler
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Should the offense be in control of substations?
What's a substation?
Posted on 2/15/14 at 11:16 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Possible, IDK. But I do think he woukd like to balance the advantages out and allow an opportunity for the D to be able to sub on any play without fear of penalty.
Should the O be the be the team to decide when its OK for the d to sub? Would it be fair if the O could only sub when the D subs? IMO there should be equal opportunity for each side to sub on every play, not just the offense.
Y'all can hate on Saban all you want but my questions are valid and a legitimate questions. I'm not going flame war, so if you want to hurl insults and the like then , I'm out. But if you want to talk about my questions then all good. You seem pretty reasonable and are a good poster from what I can tell. Cheers!
Should the O be the be the team to decide when its OK for the d to sub? Would it be fair if the O could only sub when the D subs? IMO there should be equal opportunity for each side to sub on every play, not just the offense.
Y'all can hate on Saban all you want but my questions are valid and a legitimate questions. I'm not going flame war, so if you want to hurl insults and the like then , I'm out. But if you want to talk about my questions then all good. You seem pretty reasonable and are a good poster from what I can tell. Cheers!
Posted on 2/15/14 at 11:18 pm to boddagetta
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hat's a substation
It's what my auto correct replaces what i typed for substitutions .. derp
Posted on 2/15/14 at 11:18 pm to spacewrangler
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Absurb
How has he done without great talent? What was his record at Miami? What would his record be at schools like Vanderbilt, New Mexico, or Iowa?
A huge part of being a good college coach is recruiting and no one recruits better than the Gumps. As far as the actual nuts and bolts of coaching, he's nothing special. He has built a great staff, has the best facilities in the country, and money is no object. If I wanted to pick a real "hands in the dirt" coach for a high school or small college team, he wouldn't be on my radar.
If however, I was AD at a school like Texas with near unlimited funds and wanted to win at all costs, he'd be on my short list.
This post was edited on 2/15/14 at 11:28 pm
Posted on 2/15/14 at 11:34 pm to spacewrangler
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Y'all can hate on Saban all you want but my questions are valid and a legitimate questions. I'm not going flame war, so if you want to hurl insults and the like then , I'm out. But if you want to talk about my questions then all good.
If your coach has questions about the way the game is played, the normal way to do things is to have the pros and cons brought fairly and equitably before a committee and then, and only then, should any decision on a rule change be made.
He knows he doesn't have legitimate "questions" and he knows reason would win over. So he had to go behind everyone's backs to get this vote approved.
Posted on 2/15/14 at 11:46 pm to spacewrangler
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Should the O be the be the team to decide when its OK for the d to sub?
The D has the right to sub when it wants to. It may require them to be creative and fast, but they can do so.
Also, that is the beauty of the game. A defense that takes away an element of an offense for instance that forces them into playing the game in a way they aren't used to doing. That creates more errors by the offense. They become one dimensional and makes it easier to defend.
A fast offense is forcing the defense into uncomfortable situations, and forcing them to make quick decisions or misalignments. Creating a more advantageous opportunity for the offense. It can force errors by the defense.
No difference. Just strategy and requires the other coach to find a way to beat it. Your coach has decided the best way to beat it is through rule changes.
Posted on 2/16/14 at 12:10 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
quote:Auburn DC, Ellis Johnson
"What it's about now is who can snap the football before the other team lines up. You can’t hardly get your players on and off the field. You can’t get your signals in and out. It’s become who has the best signal system or verbiage system. “ “Frankly, I don’t know what that proves except someone has a better verbiage package. It’s not about blocking, tackling, running, route running, throwing, and so forth. It’s something the college football world needs to look at.”
Posted on 2/16/14 at 12:14 am to JohnnyBob
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It’s become who has the best signal system or verbiage system.
I guess instead of whining, The Diminutive One should work on his verbiage system?
Posted on 2/16/14 at 12:19 am to JohnnyBob
Hate to tell you but that big ole double digit IQ isn't winning this argument for you. The facts are what they are. Quoting various people irrelevant to it doesn't change that one bit.
Saban jumped the shark and is trying to get that jump back.
Saban jumped the shark and is trying to get that jump back.
Posted on 2/16/14 at 12:23 am to Captain Rumbeard
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Hate to tell you but that big ole double digit IQ isn't winning this argument for you.
Pics of the test result or it didn't happen.
Posted on 2/16/14 at 12:35 am to RedMustang
I'm figuring it's at least a 10 if he's able to get on the internet.
Posted on 2/16/14 at 12:36 am to Hugh McElroy
lSU hasn't struggled against it we adjusted......its game planning...we man handled Oregon and they have as good a HUNH as anyone.
Posted on 2/16/14 at 12:38 am to Captain Rumbeard
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Posted by Captain Rumbeard I'm figuring it's at least a 10 if he's able to get on the internet.
You might be right.
Posted on 2/16/14 at 12:38 am to tampajoe
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If your coach has questions about the way the game is played, the normal way to do things is to have the pros and cons brought fairly and equitably before a committee and then, and only then, should any decision on a rule change be made.
Did anyone listen to Finebaum the other day? According to his sources, Saban wrote a letter to the chairman of the committee about his thoughts on the HUNH. The chairman called Saban while he was on vacation to speak to the committee about the contents of his letter. Initially, Saban declined the offer because he didn't want the backlash associated with it. The chairman pressed the issue by saying that Saban sounded very convincing in the letter, and he wanted the committee to hear his position. Saban then agreed to appear.
If the sources are right, Saban didn't manipulate his way in to the meeting. He was invited. He spoke on something that he believes is beneficial for the game.
For those who oppose Saban's presence at the meeting, perhaps your anger is misdirected. Which one of your coaches would decline an invitation to speak at a committee meeting about an issue they feel strongly about?
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