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re: Question about Sugar Bowl for Bama fans...
Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:40 am to Ellis Hugh IV
Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:40 am to Ellis Hugh IV
Yes we lost because we refused to pound the ball all game. Ohio State played a great game and deserved the win but I believe if we had continued to run Henry all night we change the outcome of that game.
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:42 am to Ellis Hugh IV
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do you think offensive play calling cost you the game?
No. Could have been better but our defense played like shite, especially on 3rd and long.
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it seems like there were some costly mistakes due to passing the ball
Yes and no. Throwing the ball RIGHT TO THE DEFENDER is definitely a mistake, not exactly Lane's fault.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:43 am to elposter
Personally, I thought Bama could win that game if they gave Henry twice as many touches.
However, I also think OSU wins that game big if they don't have the huge turnovers and Derps inside the 5 in the first half. So there are things on both sides that impacted the final score. If Henry is getting more touches, perhaps OSU gets more aggressive with the deep ball in the 4th quarter, and scores another 7-10? Who knows
However, I also think OSU wins that game big if they don't have the huge turnovers and Derps inside the 5 in the first half. So there are things on both sides that impacted the final score. If Henry is getting more touches, perhaps OSU gets more aggressive with the deep ball in the 4th quarter, and scores another 7-10? Who knows
Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:44 am to chattabama
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Kiffin made some questionable play calls especially given that Blake was in road Blake form. The most questionable one to me was after the short punt when we called a long pass to OJ Howard that ended up getting intercepted. Why were we in such a hurry to score?
I don't get this. Words can't describe how wide open Howard was. Kiffin called a play for Howard that saw Howard wide as open for a VERY easy pitch and catch. It was a brilliant call that would have kept the momentum going full force. Sims royally fricked the play up, it happens.
I promise, this post is 100% butthurt free....there's a HUGE chance that Alabama wins the game if they run the ball more. Not saying if they add 10 extra runs that they win, but the rhythm of the offense kept getting screwed up because they didn't continue to pound the ball.
Honest to god I looked at my dad and asked if he too thought Kiffin was calling the weirdest game. It's not like they were snubbing the run to attack downfield. There weren't that many long throws.
I've seen Alabama lose plenty times, and this game would rank at the very bottom of my upset scale. But I've never been so confused after watching an Alabama game.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:45 am to Ellis Hugh IV
Imo, the game was lost in the trenches and better coaching that day.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:47 am to Alahunter
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Imo, the game was lost in the trenches and better coaching that day.
Their D line made things tough all night.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:47 am to ReauxlTide222
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Kiffin was calling the weirdest game
Shades of the Arkansas and LSU games. Just head scratching play calling at times.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:51 am to Dr RC
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No, Ohio State executing their gameplan better on both sides of the ball was the difference in the game. -The Spleen
Uhh no. Y'all lost b/c you abandoned the run.
Bama abandoned the run after the Ohio St. Offense started scoring at will (aka executing their gameplan). I don't know if Saban thought Bama had to win by getting in another shoot out a'la 2014 Iron Bowl or what. While you're right, Bama had and would've had more success running the ball, Ohio St. forced Bama's hand with how easily they scored in the 2nd & 3rd qtrs.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:51 am to Ellis Hugh IV
Typically after a loss in a big game, I usually blame either the offense or the defense. Both units let us down in the Sugar Bowl. Playcalling absolutely contributed to the loss. We pissed away way too many 2nd and Shorts by trying low percentage pass plays instead of running the ball. The defense's inability to get off the field after a third and long was just as big of an issue. Both of those have been issues all season.
Combine all of that with an OSU team that played very well, and there you go.
Combine all of that with an OSU team that played very well, and there you go.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:56 am to chattabama
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The most questionable one to me was after the short punt when we called a long pass to OJ Howard that ended up getting intercepted. Why were we in such a hurry to score?
It was an easy touchdown if Blake doesn't throw such a shitty pass. When Blake rolled out, OJ was wide open in the middle of the field. Blake waited way too long to throw it, and then he underthrew it.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:58 am to bic
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we lost because we refused to pound the ball all game
All the passing is one reason the runs that were called worked. This O-line wasn't the 2012 O-line that could run even if the defense was expecting it. I think the playcalling this year reflected that. But, I do think Kiffin might have gotten a little cute with some of the calls. A few more runs here and there probably would have helped.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:59 am to Ellis Hugh IV
3rd downs cost us the game. Both ways.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 11:01 am to Teague
I felt like Bama could have and should have run the ball more.
Plus ... Ohio St. played great.
There are some solid posts in here from some of the Bama faithful...seems like some good points and perspective.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 11:11 am to The Spleen
quote:It wasn't individual calls. I never once thought "WTF Kiffin?!"
Shades of the Arkansas and LSU games. Just head scratching play calling at times.
I don't know THAT much about football, but deep into the 3rd quarter I still couldn't even pinpoint their strategy on offense. Isn't that bad? Henry is dragging fools. Gimpy Yeldon is still getting the edge every damn time it seems like. Kept thinkin, yay they're pounding it! Now pound it more! And then pass off of that! Then pass when it looks like you'll run!
I was at the game so I got zero insight from announcers, but seemed like Kiffin kept em OUT of rhythm. I could be wrong though.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 11:14 am to ReauxlTide222
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but seemed like Kiffin kept em OUT of rhythm. I could be wrong though.
The offense definitely had an "odd feel" from the start of the game, and it never really got better.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 11:18 am to ReauxlTide222
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seemed like Kiffin kept em OUT of rhythm.
I got that impression watching it on TV. I think Kiffin is great when the offense is clicking and executing well(Florida, A&M, Auburn 2nd half, etc), but he's pretty average when things aren't going as well. Almost like he tries to force things and doesn't really have a bread & butter set of plays to fall back on. Some of that may be lack of personnel, lack of execution, or whatever. We got spoiled by Mcelwain and big, dominant OL's, and we just didn't have the OL to be a dominant run team this year.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 11:19 am to Teague
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But, I do think Kiffin might have gotten a little cute with some of the calls. A few more runs here and there probably would have helped.
That's pretty much it. I don't think anyone thinks we should've suddenly become Alabama 2008 and just run every down but calling a few more run plays on those short yardage downs would've made a difference. Kiffin was not very good on on 2nd/3rd & short and honestly its been something he hasn't been good at all year. Very similar to Nussmeir in that regard.
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 11:21 am to The Spleen
Also, give credit where it's due, I think the OSU D-line disrupted a lot of what Kiffin wanted to do, and he called plays almost in fear of their D-line.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 11:29 am to The Spleen
quote:No doubt about it. OSU brought the pain.
Also, give credit where it's due, I think the OSU D-line disrupted a lot of what Kiffin wanted to do, and he called plays almost in fear of their D-line.
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