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re: Pulled some gems from the LSU woman’s basketball game thread
Posted on 3/27/23 at 12:44 pm to Aguga
Posted on 3/27/23 at 12:44 pm to Aguga
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Most people don’t. Then a certain group gets mad no one watches it.
Well, women don't even watch it. I worked the ACC Women's Tourney here in Greensboro many years ago.
80% of the crowd were lesbians and they came in big groups. Pretty small crowd too. It's just not a spectator sport.
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Posted on 3/27/23 at 12:46 pm to scrooster
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scrooster
I don't watch lumberjack competitions either. You know, maybe one of the most masculine sports out there..
Some things just don't need to be on tv.
This post was edited on 3/27/23 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 3/27/23 at 12:57 pm to CoyoteSong
There are aspects of women’s basketball that can fun to watch. If it’s a good team they tend to play fundamentally sound basketball with some good play sets
Posted on 3/27/23 at 12:59 pm to i am dan
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It's just not a spectator sport.
LSU and SC were bringing in 15,000+ for games this year.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 1:01 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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This has never been said about anything Iowa ever.
Lol, true. Caitlin Clark is ridiculously good. She was raining threes.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 1:01 pm to father2sons
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Imagine the average house wife trying to play with these women.
I don’t want to do that.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 1:04 pm to ibldprplgld
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If it’s not for you, move along. No need to spread negativity and try and spoil it for those who do enjoy it.
I try to do that and then I see comments about Caitlin Clark being the best college basketball player this year, men or women. I’m truly baffled that people can make such insane comments like that and truly believe it.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 1:17 pm to Stonehog
It’s foolish to compare a male athlete to a female athlete. As long as we keep men out of women’s sports, it is fair competition. It’s sad how many insecure men are so quick to bash women’s sports. If you don’t want to watch, don’t.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 1:19 pm to GetCocky11
Mulkey killing flamingos down there?
Posted on 3/27/23 at 1:32 pm to Mulkey Man
quote:People pack it in to see elite teams play in any sport.
LSU and SC were bringing in 15,000+ for games this year.
Average WBB attendance in 2018-19 for SEC: 4,277
Average MBB attendance in 2018-19 for SEC: 11,527
I used the 2018-19 season because that was the most recent season with full attendance statistics posted that wasn't affected by COVID.
If you want me to use 2021-22 attendance figures:
SEC WBB- 4,221 per game
SEC MBB- 10,602 per game
And that isn't necessarily paying attendance either. WBB games were free to attend with a UGA Student ID when I was a student, there were many games where the only cost to attend for non-UGA students were a Toys for Tots or canned food donation, and many times the local middle and elementary schools were given tickets. UGA men's basketball is absolute shite right now and isn't even at that point.
This post was edited on 3/27/23 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 3/27/23 at 1:39 pm to lsufan1971
quote:the average boys highschool basketball team at a good sized highschool would beat the average WNBA team more often than not.
The worst mens player in the SEC would dominate the Women's league.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 1:42 pm to deltaland
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There are aspects of women’s basketball that can fun to watch. If it’s a good team they tend to play fundamentally sound basketball with some good play sets
Thank you, point well made. The good teams, usually six to eight per season, are very fundamentally sound and often have higher 3-pt averages than the males ... so it's not all about post-play.
Really good guard play is what sets-up and drives most of the elite teams each year.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 1:43 pm to Stonehog
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I try to do that and then I see comments about Caitlin Clark being the best college basketball player this year, men or women. I’m truly baffled that people can make such insane comments like that and truly believe it.
Its like saying Khabib or Mcgregor is the pound for pound best fighter. We all know that Nganou would wreck any 155 pounder but if khabib were 250 or if Nganou was 155, we think that Khabib would win.
No one thinks Clark could excel on the mens team but people do have an argument that the gap between her and her peers is larger than the gap between Darius Miller or whoever is deemed the best NCAA men's player and the field.
This post was edited on 3/27/23 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 3/27/23 at 1:45 pm to narddogg81
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the average boys highschool basketball team at a good sized highschool would beat the average WNBA team more often than not.
I don't think this is true. I think the best HS BBabll teams could beat the average WNBA team but I don't think an average team with a 6'4 center (like most HS teams) is a shoe in to beat WNBA teams.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 2:00 pm to scrooster
quote:This is another issue I have with WCBB: the talent gap between the 10 best teams and the rest is so immense.
The good teams, usually six to eight per season, are very fundamentally sound
South Carolina has only had 3-4 games where they won by less than 15 vs. a team not in the top 15. They beat Clemson (and frick Clemson) by 54 points. Clemson was the definition of an "average" WBB team: 17-15 record after the ACC WBB tournament and knocked out in WNIT Sweet 16.
Of the 6 teams still remaining in the WBB Tournament, they have only played 4 games where the final score has been decided by less than 10 points. This season is not an anomaly either, because I have posted about it before.
This post was edited on 3/27/23 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 3/27/23 at 2:07 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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I don't think this is true. I think the best HS BBabll teams could beat the average WNBA team but I don't think an average team with a 6'4 center (like most HS teams) is a shoe in to beat WNBA teams.
If you took a very good high school boys team (say ranked between #20 & #50 overall in a statelike Florida, Texas, Georgia, California, New York, Illinois, & Ohio) they would beat the women’s college champion easily (20+ point margin). Not even debatable.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 2:13 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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don't think this is true. I think the best HS BBabll teams could beat the average WNBA team but I don't think an average team with a 6'4 center (like most HS teams) is a shoe in to beat WNBA teams.
I disagree. A 6’4” male center is absolutely dominating the paint in terms of rebounds and blocks. Those 5’10”-6’2” guards are going to be so much faster and stronger than the competing guards on the women’s team.
If you get a group of in shape high school boys that have played together they will beat all WNBA teams.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 2:17 pm to Tammany Tom
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If you took a very good high school boys team (say ranked between #20 & #50 overall in a statelike Florida, Texas, Georgia, California, New York, Illinois, & Ohio)
He didn't say very good, he said average.
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they would beat the women’s college champion easily (20+ point margin). Not even debatable.
It is debatable, we are debating it right now.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 2:24 pm to scrooster
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scrooster
Staley isn't going to sleep with you. I don't think she swings that way.
Your white knighting is bordering on fetishism.
Btw, I love watching women's volleyball and tennis.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 2:37 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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I disagree. A 6’4” male center is absolutely dominating the paint in terms of rebounds and blocks. Those 5’10”-6’2” guards are going to be so much faster and stronger than the competing guards on the women’s team.
If you get a group of in shape high school boys that have played together they will beat all WNBA teams.
This is where the craftiness/skill of a WNBA player would close the gap. Like it or not, the average HS kid has a fairly low IQ in any sport. The mental edge that a group of women in theor mid twenties would have over a bunch of 17 year old boys would close the athleticism gap.
Lets look at the Las Vegas Aces that won the 2022 championship since the HS boys could beat ANY WNBA team:
PG: Kelsey Plum 5'8
SG: Chelsea Gray 5'11
SF: Jackie Young 6'0
PF: Dearica Hamby 6'3
C: Aja Wilson 6'4
G: Riquiana Williams 5'7
F: Theresa Plaiance 6'5
I'll compare it to my younger brother's HS team from his senior year, which finished in the second round of the 5A playoffs in Louisiana. Not a great team but I'd say slightly above average.
PG: 5'7 (fast and a menace on D, not much of a scorer)
SG: 5'8 (good 3P shooter, not much else)
SF: 6'0 (best all around player, guarded best player every game)
PF: 6'4 (best scorer, but more finesse)
C: 6'4 (extremely strong, current NFL player)
G: 5'10 (ok player, not weak at anything but not great at anything either)
F: 6'3 (decent pick and pop guy)
Height wise, they matchup well against what would be an average HS basketball team and I'd argue that the average HS team would struggle to put 3 SKILLED players on the court that are 6'3 or above. Not to mention they would be able to take advantage of the less than stellar defense by 2 of the starters and the drop off to the bench players would be extremely hard for a HS team to overcome. Their main issue would be stopping the ball in transition and dealing with the Ox they had at C. I am just not sure that I would bet money on that HS team beating the WNBA champions.
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