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re: Pruitt now recruiting guys on Alabama's team. Kirby got away with it (long post)
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:23 pm to RD Dawg
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:23 pm to RD Dawg
quote:This was the question that Sankey asked Saban...pretty sure after conferring with the league attorneys.
Once again,we're talking about GRADUATE TRANSFERS.It's
not as though there are 5 or 6 a year plus these kids have graduated.He should be able to go anywhere the hell he wants to on scholarship. You really wanna go to court over this?
The entire point of all this is to try to stave off ANYTHING that opens up the league to possible easier guidelines for potential transfers.
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Posted on 5/14/18 at 6:13 pm to DawgsLife
Therefore Jason Stiham could leave AU a week before the Iron bowl and line up for Alabama. Or UGA's dynamic pair at RB could have switched sides on the Friday before the Natty vs UA. Now that's some big time logic for you.There is a reason the power conferences have a rule addressing transferring from one school to the other in the same conference. You can quit Kroger @ noon and work at the Pigg @ 1:00 PM. A school like UA could see who's good enough to play and whose not right on up to the first game then start shopping for big time players off LSU/UF and so forth or even grab some free agents from State to fill the gaps with no rules.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject"
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject"
This post was edited on 5/14/18 at 6:22 pm
Posted on 5/14/18 at 7:30 pm to jimdog
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Therefore Jason Stiham could leave AU a week before the Iron bowl and line up for Alabama.
Thats some stupid logic right there, but then again, this whole post of yours was stupid.
Posted on 5/15/18 at 3:24 am to djsdawg
Exactly!!! LOL @ dawgs calling each other stupid! Since my post pointed out how ridiculous DwgsLife's lame post was. You guys can be some goobers! Problem is you folks can't keep up. You post some lame, illogical garden compost then trip yourselves up with your spin. Basically like some doofus trying to explain away his crime in court who winds up confessing.
I try to ignore by factoring in a certain amount of rube in most of these inane posts but damnation, some of you guys just need to take a knee and move on. But no, instead of keeping quiet and merely appearing goofy, you open up and remove all doubt. FWIW your fellow Dawg suggested that CFB players were same as Kroger employees and should be able to quit and change jobs/schools at anytime without restraint. Long as the new school/job would take him I guess but he didn't even put in that caveat. And yeah I agree, the idea is stupid.
He does go a bit further and adds graduate to a later post but still insists that if a graduate is tired of stocking shelves for one grocery he can go to another at anytime and start stocking immediately. I guess coaches could/would bring enrollment forms and if a player got chewed out on the other side he could sign him up, change jersies on the sideline and put him to work! You Dawgs need a press sec to untangle your logic.
I try to ignore by factoring in a certain amount of rube in most of these inane posts but damnation, some of you guys just need to take a knee and move on. But no, instead of keeping quiet and merely appearing goofy, you open up and remove all doubt. FWIW your fellow Dawg suggested that CFB players were same as Kroger employees and should be able to quit and change jobs/schools at anytime without restraint. Long as the new school/job would take him I guess but he didn't even put in that caveat. And yeah I agree, the idea is stupid.
He does go a bit further and adds graduate to a later post but still insists that if a graduate is tired of stocking shelves for one grocery he can go to another at anytime and start stocking immediately. I guess coaches could/would bring enrollment forms and if a player got chewed out on the other side he could sign him up, change jersies on the sideline and put him to work! You Dawgs need a press sec to untangle your logic.
This post was edited on 5/15/18 at 3:40 am
Posted on 5/15/18 at 6:18 am to 14&Counting
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If a player graduates with college eligibility remaining, they can play elsewhere right away. (That’s as long as they’ve still got time left on their five-year clock.
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That is what I said in my earlier post nitwit.
Then why were you arguing against it when you said this?
RD_Dawg said: Shouldn't need any school's permission to go anywhere if he graduates and if the rule was challenged in court there's absolutely no way it holds up.
And then you said: You are arguing about what you think the rule should be as opposed to what the rule is.....
I am not so sure: A kid exchanges his amateur eligibility for a scholarship and everything that entails. He has four years.
The rule, as I quoted clearly says as long as a kid has time left on his 5 year clock, and has graduated he can transfer anywhere he wants. The SEC stepped in and made another ruling, but it was then waived by the SEC.
At that point, Mo Smith should have been able to transfer anywhere he chose per NCAA rules.
You can't say one thing, then when called on it turn around and say you didn't say it.
Posted on 5/15/18 at 6:30 am to jimdog
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Therefore Jason Stiham could leave AU a week before the Iron bowl and line up for Alabama.
No. You can only use the transfer waiver once without permission. if you want to use it twice, you then have to jump through other hoops. I have provided links. If you guys don't want to read them, then maybe it is time you dropped out of the thread?
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"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject"
Apparently I have to answer every single scenario you guys bring up by going through the links I provided to you and copy and paste them here for you, so you don't have to do anything but think up arguments.
Here. I will copy and paste for you one more time, but please don't expect me to do this every time you think of a new argument.
Graduate Exception
The graduate exception is a version of the one-time transfer exception. It is for student-athletes who cannot use the normal one-time transfer exception because they play one of the sports that are not permitted to use the exception.
The student-athlete must have graduated with at least a bachelor’s degree;
The student-athlete meets the other requirements of the one-time transfer exception;
The student-athlete must have at least one season of competition left; and
The student-athlete’s previous school did not renew his or her athletic scholarship or offer an athletic scholarship for the following academic year.
The requirement that the scholarship be cancelled or not renewed is generally not an issue. The scholarship does not need to be cancelled before the transfer or be the reason for the transfer. Because the one-time transfer exception requires you to get a release, what will happen with your scholarship is generally just an administrative detail.
Explains the One time transfer exception
The link tells about the one time transfer exception above the graduate transfer requirements.
Posted on 5/15/18 at 6:34 am to jimdog
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Therefore Jason Stiham could leave AU a week before the Iron bowl and line up for Alabama. Or UGA's dynamic pair at RB could have switched sides on the Friday before the Natty vs UA. Now that's some big time logic for you.There is a reason the power conferences have a rule addressing transferring from one school to the other in the same conference. You can quit Kroger @ noon and work at the Pigg @ 1:00 PM. A school like UA could see who's good enough to play and whose not right on up to the first game then start shopping for big time players off LSU/UF and so forth or even grab some free agents from State to fill the gaps with no rules.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject"
Really? Show me a rule in which a player can transfer during an ongoing season and participate. I'll wait.
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"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject"
By the way...your definition of fanatic is wrong, too.
plural fanatics
1 disapproving : a person exhibiting excessive enthusiasm and intense uncritical devotion toward some controversial matter (as in religion or politics)
a religious fanatic [=extremist]
The fanatics are convinced they are serving a righteous cause and that all means are justified … —Flora Lewis
2 : a person who is extremely enthusiastic about and devoted to some interest or activity
Posted on 5/15/18 at 6:51 am to DawgsLife
Well during one of your "spells" while foaming at the mouth on the subject you carried on about transferring and getting "immediate eligibility". Compared to a stock boy @ Kroger going to The Pig As I recall.
Posted on 5/15/18 at 7:49 am to jimdog
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Well during one of your "spells" while foaming at the mouth on the subject you carried on about transferring and getting "immediate eligibility".
Really? Mind showing me anywhere where I said a player could transfer in the middle of a season? I'll wait. Are you going to be "one of those posters" who wants to twist words and put words in people's mouths, or do you want to have serious, rational discussions? I have been giving you links, and direct quotes to articles explaining the rules. now show me where I am wrong.
quote:That was in response to somebody (you?) saying that even in the real world there are noncompete clauses. I merely pointed out that those do not apply to regular people, in the real world.
Compared to a stock boy @ Kroger going to The Pig As I recall.
Yep. Apparently you are going to be "one of those posters". Since you seem to be unwilling to have a rational discussion there isn't much sense in carrying on this discussion. I understand trolling, but you seemed to start off having a legitimate discussion and now you want to devolve into parsing.
This post was edited on 5/15/18 at 8:37 am
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