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Pruitt now recruiting guys on Alabama's team. Kirby got away with it (long post)

Posted on 5/13/18 at 3:42 pm
Posted by jimdog
columbus, ga
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/13/18 at 3:42 pm
when he recruited the Smith kid who was his leading tackler in 2016. Then unleashed a flood of 'po me sympathy for the pore ole starter @ Alabama who jess wanted a different major. Lol! Likely hurt Smith who didn't get drafted as he probably would have coming out of the Bama program. But that's not the point. The point is overall this hurts the sport. What has separated CFB from BB is the long term commitment from programs to a player and that commitment being repaid by a productive 4 or 5th year athlete.

Now Jeremy has recruited a guy for his OL off the Alabama team who was slated to be the center this year til he had a knee last year and missed all but the first three games. This guy will likely play in the NFL in a couple of years and you can believe Saban is pizzed just like he was @ Kirbs. He may have wound up the UA starting center this fall since he is just now getting over the knee. Obviously Alabama nor Saban needs no sympathy but football is supposed to be above the slimy pit that is BB so yeah the CFB coaches have generally had a better rep and fans a better feeling about their FB team and players. IE: the sold out stadiums.

Well you say that's good for the guy. Maybe. Who knows. But it's bad for college football and just one more bite out of the apple. In several ways. First schools recruit kids that need development. And coaching. Then they spend almost 4 years with a guy and when he gets on the cusp of playing someone recruits your roster where they are short and the guy transfers to a school in same league. And the SEC set the precedent.
After the school has spent a fortune getting him graduated and developed into a player for someone else. This is an SEC problem.


Message: leave the undeveloped alone and only take guys ready. Secondly players must have graduated to transfer so slow play their educational progress. And say what you will but Nick Saban does about as good as it gets pushing his guys that are solid to finish school and graduate. And a shocking number of Saban's guys do so in 3 years. So why push, push, push to get your guys graduated when it will bite you in the butt. And lastly this only adds to the slide off into CBB territory with the transfers and the never stopping recruiting guys even after they sign.

What goes around comes around and Kirby will have some issues in the future with schools continuing to recruit his players with the way he is building. And that makes them hard to coach! And lose focus and become negative factors internally. He will have coaches on his staff developing relationships then taking jobs elsewhere and whispering in the ears of players. Smith was a tipping point. And you can believe JP will have the same issues since he is going to build UT.

Auburn was accused for years for the same by Georgia. Not stopping recruiting them. And contacting them after they were in school and their parents. Setting the stage for some of Richt's problems with keeping his players focus on working. Suddenly Georgia, who complained about AU turned around and did the same and probably set the stage for a lot more of it. And who knows if AU was guilty. No doubt Kirby and Pruitt are. At least AU took the transfers after the players were in trouble and early on and sat them down a year to get their careers and academics in order. And went by the league rules which is no transfers among league schools without contingencies.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 5/13/18 at 3:44 pm to
Mo Smith was a grad transfer. He was fair game.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32777 posts
Posted on 5/13/18 at 3:45 pm to
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Likely hurt Smith who didn't get drafted as he probably would have coming out of the Bama program. But that's not the point.


Good because It’s a terrible point.
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
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Posted on 5/13/18 at 3:51 pm to
Shitty post is shitty
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 5/13/18 at 3:54 pm to
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Mo Smith was a grad transfer. He was fair game.



So is Brandon Kennedy
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 5/13/18 at 3:58 pm to
Yet, Kirby blocked UGA transfers to Miami.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
11657 posts
Posted on 5/13/18 at 4:01 pm to
Well Mo did get some Liberty Bowl swag......he missed on the Belk Bowl stuf though......

Mo will remember is last regular season game when the Receiver from GT ran over his azz for the winning TD vs the Dawgs..........loved it
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 5/13/18 at 4:06 pm to
I don’t know what’s true and what isn’t, but there are a lot of stories out there concerning Kirby being a top notch POS as he was on his way out the door at Bama.

I’m not sure why he’d want to hurt the man who made him, but I would say this is just one bit of karma that’s on the way to visit Kirbs.

Posted by HTDawg
Member since Sep 2016
6683 posts
Posted on 5/13/18 at 4:14 pm to
I don't see anything wrong with it. Smart and Pruitt don't have to roll over for Nick Saban, even if Bama fans want them to.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49680 posts
Posted on 5/13/18 at 4:24 pm to
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Smart and Pruitt don't have to roll over for Nick Saban, even if Bama fans want them to.

What are you talking about? This has nothing to do with Pruitt or Smart. It has everything to do with transfer rules.

You're trying to turn it into something else.
Posted by BranchDawg
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Posted on 5/13/18 at 4:54 pm to
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32777 posts
Posted on 5/13/18 at 4:57 pm to
quote:

Kirby blocked UGA transfers to Miami.


No. He didn’t block any grad transfers to Miami.
Posted by jimdog
columbus, ga
Member since Dec 2012
6636 posts
Posted on 5/13/18 at 5:08 pm to
No he wasn't. SEC rules forbid transfers from SEC school to SEC school without sitting out a year. And, this a big and...be on scholarship. This rule is to discourage illegal recruiting off another teams squad. And most of the power five have same rule.
This post was edited on 5/13/18 at 6:07 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 5/13/18 at 5:11 pm to
Apparently Sec allows Grad transfers.
Posted by jimdog
columbus, ga
Member since Dec 2012
6636 posts
Posted on 5/13/18 at 5:14 pm to
Te rule against it without sitting out is an SEC rule and being on scholarship. Not an Alabama or Saban rule.
This post was edited on 5/13/18 at 6:08 pm
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 5/13/18 at 5:16 pm to
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Yet, Kirby blocked UGA transfers to Miami.

They were not graduate transfers. Crap. I know most Alabama posters are good, but some of you....
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10308 posts
Posted on 5/13/18 at 5:22 pm to
Saban’s former assistants pushing the edge of the envelope when it comes to sleazy recruiting tactics AGAINST HIM? Cry me a fricking river.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 5/13/18 at 5:23 pm to
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What are you talking about? This has nothing to do with Pruitt or Smart. It has everything to do with transfer rules.

There are no restrictions on graduate transfers, I don't think.
If a player graduates with college eligibility remaining, they can play elsewhere right away.

Graduate Transfers

There are restrictions on regular transfers.


I'm not sure why Alabama fans are so salty about Mo Smith. With all the success you have had it just comes off as petty.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 5/13/18 at 5:24 pm to
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Te rule against it without sitting out is an SEC rule. Not an Alabama or Saban rule.


If you are talking about a graduate transfer, this is true. And it can be waved. UGA was not a threat to Alabama when Mo Smith came out. It seems petty for all you Alabama fans to come in here crying about him leaving. Players leave Alabama every. single. year.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30589 posts
Posted on 5/13/18 at 5:29 pm to
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I'm not sure why Alabama fans are so salty about Mo Smith. With all the success you have had it just comes off as petty.
There was more to the story than that. The Commish gave the kid a waiver to transfer within the SEC, an action that Alabama wasn't in favor of. The OP is correctly stating that before it's over, it'll bite other schools in the arse...and it will.
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