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re: Pro Football Focus - Highest Graded SEC Players at each position in 2020

Posted on 11/30/20 at 11:49 am to
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/30/20 at 11:49 am to
Rename Heisman to best QB or RB on the top teams

If truly the best player then why exclude every other position

Call it what it is
Posted by HarryElephante
Petoskey, Michigan
Member since Dec 2019
268 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 11:50 am to
And you’re going to lose both.

Alabama wins the league. Mac wins the Heisman.

It’s as if it’s already over. Forget about it and move on.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 11:51 am to
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And you’re going to lose both.

Alabama wins the league. Mac wins the Heisman.

It’s as if it’s already over. Forget about it and move on.


It pretty much is. There is no way UF wins in Atlanta.
Posted by GatorBait24
Pensacola
Member since Jul 2016
5380 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 11:51 am to
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Mac is undefeated, and Trask put up great numbers in a loss to A&M, but it is still a loss.

Losing shouldn’t disqualifiy you when it was the defense and RB’s fault you lose. What more can Kyle do? You running with this narrative is bullshite. It’s not a team award. At least it shouldn’t be.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 11:52 am to
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He’ll throw for 350 and 4 tds and lose because his team is worse. While Najee is running for 200+ and they give the heisman to Mac. I can see it now.


Yes, that is very possible.

But thats moreso due to how fricked up the Heisman voters vote now.

Like I said, Davonta Smith and Kyle Pitts should be both in the Heisman Top 5, and its absolutely atrocious that they aren't.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 11:53 am to
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Losing shouldn’t disqualifiy you when it was the defense and RB’s fault you lose. What more can Kyle do? You running with this narrative is bullshite. It’s not a team award. At least it shouldn’t be.


Have you been reading any of my posts? I'm telling you that is the way Heisman voters work.

And I completely disagree with it.
Posted by GatorBait24
Pensacola
Member since Jul 2016
5380 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 11:54 am to
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But thats moreso due to how fricked up the Heisman voters vote now.

This was my entire point I’m not arguing Trask will win I’m arguing he won’t and it’s bullshite, because their is no player in the country more important to his team. That’s a fact.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 11:55 am to
I'm confused by this notion that Mac is throwing to 4 1st round WRs and TEs while Trask is throwing to Northwestern's receivers.

Mac has 1 great receiver and a bunch of young kids who are talented but raw.

Trask has 1 great tight end and a bunch of talented, mostly young receivers.


Mac absolutely has the advantage of a great O-line and running game, but Trask has the advantage of the greatest security blanket and biggest matchup problem in the country in Pitts. Trask certainly has to do "more", but come on now.
This post was edited on 11/30/20 at 11:57 am
Posted by GatorBait24
Pensacola
Member since Jul 2016
5380 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 11:56 am to
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nd I completely disagree with it.

You’re making it seem like you think Mac deserves it over Trask and he fricking doesn’t. If this is all you said we wouldn’t still be arguing.
Posted by 33inNC
Charlotte, NC
Member since Mar 2011
4987 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 11:57 am to
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Bama without a LB in the top ten. Jesus. What is wrong with Dylan Moses? Where are the Rolando McClains, CJ Mosleys, Mack Wilsons...?


Yet, Moses will still, somehow, make an AA team. Actual performance be damned.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 11:57 am to
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Yet, Moses will still, somehow, make an AA team


Considering he isn't on the Butkus list I'm guessing that'll be a no.
Posted by GatorBait24
Pensacola
Member since Jul 2016
5380 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 11:57 am to
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'm confused by this notion that Mac is throwing to 4 1st round WRs and TEs while Trask is throwing to Northwestern's receivers. Mac has 1 great receiver and a bunch of young kids who are talented but raw. Trask has 1 great tight end and a bunch of talented, mostly young receivers.

Check the O-line grades George. Mac gets to stand behind 4/10 best In the league. Trask gets to stand behind 0/10. Trask is doing more with way less time and Talent. Pitts is the only player on our team that would start for you besides Trask.
This post was edited on 11/30/20 at 11:59 am
Posted by jatebe
Queen of Links
Member since Oct 2008
18284 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 11:58 am to
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quote:
Cornerback
1. Patrick Surtain II (BAMA) (86.3)
2. Martin Emerson (MSU) (82.2)
3. Malachi Moore (BAMA) (80.9)
4. Josh Jobe (BAMA) (80.8)


quote:
Safety
1. Christopher Smith (UGA) (76.4)
2. Jalen Catalon (ARK) (74.8)
3. Jordan Battle (BAMA) (74.0)


#DBU.


Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 11:59 am to
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Check the O-line grades George. Mac gets to stand behind 4/10 in the league. Trask gets to stand behind 0/10. Trask is doing more with way less time and Talent. Pitts is the only player on our team that would start for you besides Trask.





Our O-line is great. Mac certainly benefits from that.

He's also throwing to a bunch of guys who are just as inexperienced as Florida's guys, outside of Pitts and DeVonta. His targets behind DeVonta are John Metchie, Slade Bolden and Jahleel Billingsley. How many times had you heard those names before October 1st?

Trask is great. I don't really have an opinion on who wins, but this whole notion floating around that Mac just flips it to a horde of wide-open 1st round receivers that seems to have popped up in the last few weeks is a fvckin joke.
This post was edited on 11/30/20 at 12:01 pm
Posted by GatorBait24
Pensacola
Member since Jul 2016
5380 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 11:59 am to
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Mac absolutely has the advantage of a great O-line and running game, but Trask has the advantage of the greatest security blanket and biggest matchup problem in the country in Pitts. Trask certainly has to do "more", but come on now

Pitts missed two and a half games and we didn’t miss a beat. He’s great but Smith is just as much of a mismatch.
This post was edited on 11/30/20 at 12:00 pm
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 12:00 pm to
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I'm confused by this notion that Mac is throwing to 4 1st round WRs and TEs while Trask is throwing to Northwestern's receivers.

Mac has 1 great receiver and a bunch of young kids who are talented but raw.

Trask has 1 great tight end and a bunch of talented, mostly young receivers.


Mac absolutely has the advantage of a great O-line and running game, but Trask has the advantage of the greatest security blanket and biggest matchup problem in the country in Pitts. Trask certainly has to do "more", but come on now.


I never said any of this
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 12:01 pm to
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I never said any of this



Sorry - I wasn't aiming it at you, just happened to click your post when I responded
Posted by GatorBait24
Pensacola
Member since Jul 2016
5380 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 12:02 pm to
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Trask is great. I don't really have an opinion on who wins, but this whole notion floating around that Mac just flips it to a horde of wide-open 1st round receivers that seems to have popped up in the last few weeks is a fvckin joke.

Metchie would be our best receiver. You acting like you don’t have more talent than us is cute. You have loads more. All throughout your roster. Trask does more with less, their isn’t even an argument. Just quit.
This post was edited on 11/30/20 at 1:36 pm
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50383 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 12:03 pm to
A few things don’t pass the smell test

Spiller is averaging 112 yards per game and 6 yards per rush. He could crack the top 5.Harris too.

A&M has given up 3 sacks all year and one of the best rushing teams in the conference. Yet no OL made the list.
Posted by GatorBait24
Pensacola
Member since Jul 2016
5380 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 12:04 pm to
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A&M has given up 3 sacks all year and one of the best rushing teams in the conference. Yet no OL made the list.

When it comes down to it, PFF college sucks arse. They had Trask the #49 QB in the country and Jaime Newman #4 preseason. Can’t really take them as gospel.
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