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re: Presser at 10:30 AM

Posted on 3/14/11 at 9:01 am to
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
The Grindfather
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 3/14/11 at 9:01 am to
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Agent and lawyer(s). Not that complicated.


Agents are lawyers.
Posted by bgtiger
Prairieville
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 3/14/11 at 9:02 am to
You can't be serious. I read an article last year about college coaching searches, these things are done well in advance. There are "headhunters" who are employed to gauge the interest of a schools top choices. They meet in cities far away from either campus, even using fake names at hotels with agents of the "hunted" coach. The new coach may not actually make any true contact with the AD of the hiring school until it is established that he wants the job.

Not all of them go like that, but many higher profile hires do.

How do you think Alabama knew that Saban might want back into CFB in October of '06, while he was the Dolphins HC?

Even so, you Hogs who keep bringing up Bill Self are truly retarded.

How much does Petrino make? You are going to pay a hoops coach more than him?
Posted by Hawgeye
tFlagship Brothel
Member since Jun 2009
32463 posts
Posted on 3/14/11 at 9:09 am to
Nope. Anyone who thinks that our new basketball coach will make more than Petrino are high, or uninformed.

Arkansas will make a great hire, but it is not going to be Self from KU, period.

Anderson, Turgeon, & Tubby Smith. One of those 3 IMO will be the next head coach at Arkansas.

If you want my opinion.
Posted by WaveHog
Austin, TX
Member since May 2008
6968 posts
Posted on 3/14/11 at 9:09 am to
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Agents are lawyers.


nope. you don't have to be a lawyer to be an agent, and many agents aren't lawyers (I'm pretty sure Jimmy Sexton isn't a lawyer; Mallett hired both a lawyer and an agent to represent him).
Posted by Hawgeye
tFlagship Brothel
Member since Jun 2009
32463 posts
Posted on 3/14/11 at 9:11 am to
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So from reading the last few pages your making it sound like every college basketball coach in America has a "Camp" and I think sone of you hogs believe coaches have a 5-10 member entourage like actors, musicians/rappers, or politicians.

I need to assemble me a CAMP


Everyone has their "runners" so to speak, or their "camp" that will find things out for them.

How do you think we got Petrino? How do you think Florida found out Muschamp was interested?

Every time there is a coaching hire, or even well before, that coaches "people" will be contacted to see what interest there is on their part.
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
The Grindfather
Member since Dec 2010
36323 posts
Posted on 3/14/11 at 9:14 am to
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Anderson, Turgeon, & Tubby Smith. One of those 3 IMO will be the next head coach at Arkansas.


Turgeon to me only seems as a minor upgrade from Pel, and Tubby Smith is over the hill. You hogs better hope Anderson accepts the job.
Posted by hoginthesw
DFW
Member since Sep 2009
5329 posts
Posted on 3/14/11 at 9:15 am to
I would take Turgeon any day over MA (if it's down to those two)
Posted by Hawgeye
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Member since Jun 2009
32463 posts
Posted on 3/14/11 at 9:23 am to
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Turgeon to me only seems as a minor upgrade from Pel


Are you high? How is Turgeon a "minor" upgrade?

Turgeon has taken Wichita State to the Sweet 16. Got to A&M and has recruited very well and also taken them to 4 straight NCAA tourney's. He has averaged 24 wins per year in the Big 12. Good enough for me.

quote:

Tubby Smith is over the hill

Tubs still has some coaching left in him. He would be a great guy to come in and get our program back on track and set up for the next guy. Nothing wrong with Tubby Smith at all.

quote:

You hogs better hope Anderson accepts the job.

Why? Anderson, when you get down to the numbers has not just blown the basketball world up in his coaching career.
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
The Grindfather
Member since Dec 2010
36323 posts
Posted on 3/14/11 at 9:24 am to
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How do you think we got Petrino? How do you think Florida found out Muschamp was interested?


College basketball isn't the NFL or big time NCAA college football.
Posted by sugatowng
Look at my bling Bitches
Member since Nov 2006
25600 posts
Posted on 3/14/11 at 9:25 am to
I want to give you credit for being a smart guy, but you are making it hard
Posted by Hawgeye
tFlagship Brothel
Member since Jun 2009
32463 posts
Posted on 3/14/11 at 9:26 am to
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College basketball isn't the NFL or big time NCAA college football.


What?
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
The Grindfather
Member since Dec 2010
36323 posts
Posted on 3/14/11 at 9:28 am to
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Are you high? How is Turgeon a "minor" upgrade?


I think he is a middle of the pack big-12 coach I don't see him being that much better than Jeff Capel, Travis Ford, or Scott Drew. I don't think he is better than Bill Self, Rick Barnes, frank Martin, or Mike Anderson; all of whom have advanced further in the NCAA tourney than Turgeon
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
140795 posts
Posted on 3/14/11 at 9:30 am to
Headhunters are not connected to a university. So if it leaks then the department school has deniability. That's why I said no ad would ever approach a candidate while the job was still held. The headhunter is not contracted by Ath Dept but by the BOT or President
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
139098 posts
Posted on 3/14/11 at 9:34 am to
Much Like ufos gregg marshall has made contact.
Posted by Hawgeye
tFlagship Brothel
Member since Jun 2009
32463 posts
Posted on 3/14/11 at 9:34 am to
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I think he is a middle of the pack big-12 coach


What he has done at Texas A&M is great. A&M is a horrible basketball school, period. He has averaged 24 wins while still playing Baylor, Kansas, Oklahoma State, Oklahoma, Kansas, Texas, and Missouri.

I would rate him higher than Mike Anderson.

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I don't think he is better than Bill Self, Rick Barnes, frank Martin, or Mike Anderson; all of whom have advanced further in the NCAA tourney than Turgeon


Never said he was better than Self. Barnes is a disappointment IMO, in that his teams always end the season sucking. Frank Martin has steadily declined as Huggies recruits have left the KSU program. Again, Mike Anderson is only 6 games above .500 in Big 12 play and has a losing road record.

What Turgeon has done at A&M is excellent. A&M is not a basketball school and has never been known as such.
Posted by Hawgeye
tFlagship Brothel
Member since Jun 2009
32463 posts
Posted on 3/14/11 at 9:35 am to
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sms151t


I think many in here think a coaches "people" or a universities "people" involve administration, but it does not.
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65411 posts
Posted on 3/14/11 at 9:40 am to
What day did he get fired?
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
139098 posts
Posted on 3/14/11 at 9:42 am to
has 8 20 win seasons out of 13 years coaching.

If they beat nebraska in the nit, will have back to back 25 win seasons.
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
139098 posts
Posted on 3/14/11 at 9:42 am to
yesterday at 1
Posted by Hawgeye
tFlagship Brothel
Member since Jun 2009
32463 posts
Posted on 3/14/11 at 9:44 am to
Greg Marshall would be good, but I do not think that is the hire Long will make.
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