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Picking Schools based on Apparel

Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:19 am
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
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Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:19 am
I have always thought that was a dumb reason to pick a school, but with NIL how long until kids start picking schools based on nothing more than the apparel sponsors paying their NIL?

Like Zion, if he was offered more by Jordan brand than just Nike would he have chosen North Carolina over Duke?
Posted by GainesvilleDawg
Georgia
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:23 am to
Have wondered the same thing. I also would bet that you're going to see a massive increase in recruiting for places like UCLA and USC for no other reason than NIL money.
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
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Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:24 am to
It depends on the package. I may be wrong but I don’t believe recruits can be promised anything legally
Posted by Davisag9
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:25 am to
I think it's already happening. A&M and Texas just lost out on a five star tackle out of Houston to Oregon, seemingly out of nowhere. Oregon is going to be one of the biggest winners in this NIL deal.
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:48 am to
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It depends on the package. I may be wrong but I don’t believe recruits can be promised anything legally


You are correct, but if he gets paid by Nike and chooses a Jordan brand school and then says oh, I thought whole umbrella, but now can’t wear anything with the swoosh. Do you think the companies are going to continue paying him?
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
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Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:51 am to
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Oregon is going to be one of the biggest winners in this NIL deal.


Any school with big boosters are going to be big winners.

Arkansas could start putting athletes in Walmart ads or Tyson ads.

LSU with Raising Canes or Walk Ons.

Wonder if Oregon starts being a vulture like that, how long until Alabama or someone says nah we will do our own random apparel. And our kids won’t be seen in Nike? Remember when APEX was a thing? And under armour was nothing?
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
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Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:52 am to
Wonder if these big companies start paying for speeches from 17-21 year old kids like they do politicians?
Posted by BigRedNewKingOfSEC
Southeast Asia
Member since Jul 2021
477 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:54 am to
So the bagman is legal now. That's trouble for the SEC.

Let's say I am a 5 star athlete. I'll make it in the NFL if I were in Alabama or Alabama State. They'll find me.

Do I join a big SEC school where the grind and pressure on my body is harsher than joining the more relaxed Pac-12? I'll be just as rich if not richer, and fresher body in the NFL helps towards a longer career (more $$$).
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:55 am to
LSU got a player a delta airlines deal. That surprised me.

What’s crazy is that the athlete that is making the most money on this nil deal, in the whole country, is a gymnast from lsu . Her deal will bring 7 figures
Posted by Murph4HOF
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Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:57 am to
I remember an interview with Bobby Knight years ago when he said he lost a recruit because Indiana (at the time) was a Converse school and the recruit wanted to play for a Nike school.

That was before NIL. So I assume NIL will only make it worse. Would be interesting to see some kid sign a deal with Company X, and every school not sponsored by Company X drop to 0% in the 247 Crystal Ball prediction
Posted by Davisag9
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2020
13 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:04 am to
That's a good point. If/when Oregon starts throwing around Nike money, I'd have a hard time believing Nike schools would be ok with it.
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
8077 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:06 am to
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LSU got a player a delta airlines deal. That surprised me.

What’s crazy is that the athlete that is making the most money on this nil deal, in the whole country, is a gymnast from lsu . Her deal will bring 7 figures


Her face got her that, Giselle made more at her peak than Tom. Because while being a freak athlete is special, being that stunning is very rare.
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
8077 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:09 am to
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I remember an interview with Bobby Knight years ago when he said he lost a recruit because Indiana (at the time) was a Converse school and the recruit wanted to play for a Nike school.


What happens if he chooses Adidas for NIL but goes to LSU does LSU say sorry he is a 5 star and going to win is the championship, he is wearing Adidas? Or say when you are on official business with us we will be Nike?
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
8077 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:10 am to
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being that stunning is very rare.


Also beauty sells everything. I don’t need a half literate athlete stumbling through a speech yelling we got dat wood.
Posted by BigRedNewKingOfSEC
Southeast Asia
Member since Jul 2021
477 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:10 am to
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is a gymnast from lsu
I'd hit it.
Posted by Murph4HOF
A-T-L-A-N-T-A (that's where I stay)
Member since Sep 2019
15373 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:19 am to
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What happens if he chooses Adidas for NIL but goes to LSU does LSU say sorry he is a 5 star and going to win is the championship, he is wearing Adidas? Or say when you are on official business with us we will be Nike?
I remember when kickers would wear Adidas on their kicking foot (with the logo covered with athletic or electrical tape) and Nike or whatever the team shoe was on his plant foot.

I guess something like that would work. Actually, I think some kicker draining a 50+ yard game winning FG, then ripping off the tape to show the brand of show that kicked the game winner would be huuuuge from a marketing standpoint.

You'd probably have to look at every school's deal with their sponsor to see what the NIL could entail. I'd guess some kid who has an NIL from Under Armour could wear UA stuff under his uniform and no one would notice, but then he could show it off in the locker room before and after the game, during workouts, and stuff like that.

I see this being a bigger issue than Papa John's being the official delivery pizza of UGA but Zamir White signing a NIL deal with Domino's.
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
8077 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:27 am to
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remember when kickers would wear Adidas on their kicking foot (with the logo covered with athletic or electrical tape) and Nike or whatever the team shoe was on his plant foot.


I know Mitch Mustain tried that, and that was one of the many problems we had with him. He said Adidas didn’t fit his feet, so he wore Nike covered the logos and adidas threw a fit.
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
18115 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:39 am to
This had been happening for some time in basketball man.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
51790 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:42 am to
A&M is a adidas school except for track. 100% nike.

Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
16488 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:44 am to
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I have always thought that was a dumb reason to pick a school, but with NIL how long until kids start picking schools based on nothing more than the apparel sponsors paying their NIL?

Like Zion, if he was offered more by Jordan brand than just Nike would he have chosen North Carolina over Duke?



You are talking about a sports business that already is at every power 5 University, paying billions for the privilege to put their logo on the equipment. How could this ever be about a few choices?
This post was edited on 8/20/21 at 9:45 am
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