re: Pete Boone is the real problem at Ole Miss

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First, I love all my family who went to Ole Miss and those that are there now. The real problem with Ole Miss is that it has too many remnants of the Old South that remind great African-American athletes of the worst times in our country's history to be African-American. You've had coaches,several times, plead with students to stop some of that crap...and the student body or too many of them, refuse...Ole Miss will continue to have problems athletically and in attracting good coaches because it's so darn tough to recruit for a school who celebrates a time when Jim Crow laws still existed. Nutt was obviously a mistake as was O, but Cutcliffe was a good guy but he got fired. I don't know what the answer is, but I feel that until Ole Miss changes some of its "traditions", you'll never be able to attract consistently, the best players or coaches.

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this is a problem.

I have a cousin that played high level D1 basketball some years ago. Was recruited by Ole Miss, he went on a visit down there for a visit, said there was no way he could go to a school that was 100 years behind the times.

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geauxgrrl

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Very valid post. I thought about this today and I think I've found an answer. I may post it later and I guarantee it would garner about 15 pages of debate. Basically, you don't need an overwhelmingly black team to win at a high level.

Hear me out- Ole Miss will never be able to distance itself from the past to a level at which the best black athletes will consistently come here. We just can't. We could change our name, remove the Rebel Soldier overlooking the Grove, exhume the Confederate soldiers from their graves...nothing.

We would therefore have to recruit better white players. I haven't done the research, but I know there are many great white linemen, tight ends, quaterbacks, linebackers, fullbacks and even a few free safeties and receivers. Corners and tailbacks, however, are almost entirely black.

Don't get me wrong, if we got to Atlanta with a completely black team, I'd be thrilled. But there is a prejudice towards us that prevents this, compelling us to rethink our approach.

Boone is Ole Miss' main problem. I have to agree with the black bear fans. You can not be that bad in all sports. Ole Miss has a pretty campus and surrounded by SEC talent from all sides of their border.

Ole Miss has sat back and watched MSU pass them by and I'm a little surprised that has happened.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't PB one of the main instigators in all the politically correct nonsense with the X flags, playing of Dixie and mascot change?

The entire program has effectively castrated itself by purging all the traditions and all that's done is piss a lot of the fans off. Certainly hasn't helped recruiting, as the football program sucks more now than ever.

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Your and idiot.

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Your and

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It's you're an.
Normally I leave grammar mishaps be but in the context of your reply.....

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Can't fully agree with this. He did get Arkansas to Atlanta.

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Arkansas did make it to Atlanta in 2002. The west was not anywhere near the east in performance that year. Alabama would have gone to Atlanta that year had they not been on probation and South Carolina was the only opponent from the east that we beat that year. Matt Jones and a good offensive line were the instrumental factors in getting us there.

It was a similar scenario in 2006 with Felix, McFadden, Hillis, and others. After Nutt took over most of the play calling, that team finished the season with losses to LSU, Florida and Wisconsin. With almost all the returning talent in 2007, we then began that season with three straight SEC losses to Alabama, Kentucky, and Auburn. Who do I credit for that? Houston Nutt.

I'm not saying that Pete Boone isn't a problem but unless Nutt manages to get talent like he inherited from Ed Orgeron in 2008 at Ole Miss, and manages it well, I don't see him doing much. He definitely wouldn't have at Arkansas, had the extraordinary talent not been there, mostly by coincidence.

ETA: Don't be confused.
Malzahn also was an instrumental factor for our success in '06. ...and Nutt hires David Lee to "help" Malzahn with the passing game. That's one of the main factors that cost him his job.

I know...you've heard it all before, but it's true.

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He has yet to call one this season.

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I believe this and I don't believe the main problem centers around play calling either.

I just don't think Pete Boone is the only weed in the garden. He's just one.

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Once again...you're just an obsessed pig fan who bases everything on what happened at Arkansas

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I'm not basing my opinions re: the problems at Ole Miss by what has happened at Arkansas. I'm basing it on what I've observed since 2008-2009. There has been very little stability within the coaching ranks, primarily. And Nutt's gonna be Nutt.

I want to see good things happen with the programs at Ole Miss, with or without Nutt; whatever is best for Ole Miss.

However, I do agree that I'm somewhat of an obsessed pig fan but I mean no harm. Damn you Pank!

Nutt just needs support from the fans and administration, hard to recruit at a high level when there's so much negativity surrounding the program. He is still the same coach that took OM to back to back Cotton Bowls and can do it again if you guys would just give him the support that he needs like new facilities and what not.

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I just see it unfolding like Cutcliff v2.0 with Nutt refusing to fire his guys.

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I agree. I just don't see him letting go in that regard.