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re: Paul Finebaum: USC, UCLA to Big Ten better move than Oklahoma, Texas to SEC

Posted on 7/23/22 at 1:54 pm to
Posted by RelentlessTide
Member since Feb 2020
2918 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 1:54 pm to
The big 10 is ideal for athletes who don’t care about winning. Money follows the winner, and, with the exception of Ohio, the rest of the league is more like the ACC
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
3100 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 1:55 pm to
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USC/UCLA to the Big Ten is a much better get than UT/OU because it takes the big ten coast to coast.

SEC already had aTm.
OU is in a small podunk state.

Anyone who doesn't understand this doesn't understand business.


It is hard to believe they don't understand this. I know some of it is just denial on their part but I am not beginning to think you are right and they lack business sense. The B1G has planted its flag in every major market outside of the south and it may be only a matter of time before they plant it down there.
Posted by Hawkeye here
Member since Jul 2022
194 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 1:58 pm to
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OU is in a small podunk state


Iowa



The thread is a discussion on which was the better get, USC/UCLA or UT/OU.

The SEC already had Texas with aTm, so all you gained are eyeballs in Oklahoma.

The Big Ten grabbed the crown jewel of west coast football, and the crown jewel of west coast basketball.
The Big Ten map now goes coast to coast grabbing both Blue Bloods from the 2nd largest city in the nation, along with giving them teams from coast to coast.

If you don't understand why this is exponentially a better get than adding Norman Ok to your conference, then you aren't very intelligent.
Posted by OleManDixon
Lexington
Member since Jan 2018
9234 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 2:00 pm to
Okay.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54676 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 2:01 pm to
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Anyone who doesn't understand this doesn't understand business.


I think it is the difference between understanding "paper" business and "reality" business.

UCLA and USC were "reality" businesses in the 60's and 70's but those days don't exist on the West Coast today. B1G has "paper" eyeballs but not the "reality" content to back it up. SEC has "reality" content but much fewer "paper" eyeballs but demographics will change that in a generation as folks in the North move South, and the South continues its base population growth. Case in point would be Detroit and Nashville 50 years ago and where each stands today. Detroit has had mass population exodus and Nashville is becoming the new Atlanta in population.


What you fail to acknowledge is that while OK may be a small state, it has solid brands across it's sports spectrum (which means year round content for LIVE programming) and that is the real beauty of the SECN "reality" vs the other conferences content "paper" for the B1G and other power conferences.
Posted by RelentlessTide
Member since Feb 2020
2918 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 2:02 pm to
Money follows winners. The big 10s regional approach makes sense if you can’t attract viewers outside of say podunk Iowa. The SEC has coast to coast viewers because it’s a winner.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22668 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 2:02 pm to
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Anyone who doesn't understand this doesn't understand business.




I'm guessing you've never once looked at viewership numbers by region for games. Yet here you are claiming people don't understand business, while talking overall market size rather than actual interest in the product.

What's next, you going to tell everyone how much extra money your BBQ pork stands will make after you expand in the middle east because of their population?

This post was edited on 7/23/22 at 2:03 pm
Posted by osu125
OKC
Member since Jul 2022
54 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 2:06 pm to
ou has certainly been consistently better than USC for some time now. But the media love for USC when they were rolling with Pete Carrol was second to none over the past 25 years. Their games were like a Lakers game on steroids with The Who’s who in Hollywood trying to be seen sideline. Their fans are the fairest of fair weather, but when they’re winning they are more valuable and garner significantly more attention.

Also, 12 months ago Riley was the second coming of Christ to everyone in Norman…he left (with a few of ou’s top recruits) and now he destined to fail at USC?

Posted by swinetime
Member since Apr 2013
4410 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 2:10 pm to
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+ UCLA
+ USC
Will help UM and tOSU recruit in the west 


Yeah because what California kid doesnt dream of of playing football in freezing temps.
Posted by RelentlessTide
Member since Feb 2020
2918 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 2:11 pm to
The same could have been said about Miami at its peak
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54676 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 2:13 pm to
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Yeah because what California kid doesnt dream of of playing football in freezing temps.


The same ones that went to Notre Dame a generation or two ago. If you want the NFL the BuckNuts can give you the exposure and MeatChicken is not what they were but can at least still recruit.
Posted by Hawkeye here
Member since Jul 2022
194 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 2:21 pm to
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+ UCLA
+ USC
Will help UM and tOSU recruit in the west 


Yeah because what California kid doesnt dream of of playing football in freezing temps.


Football weather in the midwest is far better than the south.

Ohio State and Notre Dame are 1 and 2 in recruiting.
Appears that players in warm weather states didn't get the memo, or they aren't pu$$ies like you.

This post was edited on 7/23/22 at 2:42 pm
Posted by RelentlessTide
Member since Feb 2020
2918 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 2:22 pm to
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Ohio State and Notre Dame are 1 and 2 in recruiting.


Dick riding Ohio state and ND - pathetic
Posted by Texas Weazel
Louisiana is a shithole
Member since Oct 2016
8532 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 2:24 pm to
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You’re wrong.

He's not saying we have more fans than all of you.

He's saying you obsessed fricks still watch Aggy games. The ratings don't lie.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54676 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 2:25 pm to
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Dick riding Ohio state and ND - pathetic


Well appears to been an Iowa fan, they are like BuckNuts fans, but without the winning.

Posted by OleManDixon
Lexington
Member since Jan 2018
9234 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 2:31 pm to
Posted by jumpstart
Member since Jun 2018
919 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 2:32 pm to
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Both applied for B1g membership and were denied
You need a link for that comment....
Posted by Hback
Member since Aug 2017
9213 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 2:33 pm to
Great block at the 10
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32860 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 2:35 pm to
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Recruits are lining up.


Are they for real though?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32860 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 2:43 pm to
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sorry if the truth hurts but Riley said he went to USC as soon as they offered because he knew it offered him the best chance of winning a national title.


Do you not realize this helps make our point? Not being in the sec automatically improves his odds, but that doesn’t make USC a bigger brand than OU.
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