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re: Our University is not woke. Will remove Confederate plaques, study building names

Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:02 pm to
Posted by InGAButLoveBama
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:02 pm to
If anyone here supports this cultural genocide, tell me this. Will you support tearing down the statues to Dr. King, when those FBI tapes are made public?

His chief biographer has heard them and says they shocked him to the core. He said King can be heard celebrating a woman's rape.

No, as White cowards, you will sit back and let them stay up. See I don't want any monuments taken down, but how about some consistency?
Posted by JesusQuintana
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:03 pm to
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Raise your hand if you saw "desegregation was actually bad" coming as soon as this guy started moralizing about the CSA's right to secede.

:raises hand:


This guy is two seconds away from saying “black people had it better during slavery anyway”
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:04 pm to
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If anyone here supports this cultural genocide, tell me this. Will you support tearing down the statues to Dr. King, when those FBI tapes are made public?

His chief biographer has heard them and says they shocked him to the core. He said King can be heard celebrating a woman's rape.

No, as White cowards, you will sit back and let them stay up. See I don't want any monuments taken down, but how about some consistency?



Man, this is the worst What If issue Marvel ever put out.
Posted by InGAButLoveBama
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:04 pm to
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re: Our University is not woke. Will remove Confederate plaques, study building namesPosted on 6/8/20 at 10:36 pm to Irons Puppet
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How many Wallace Halls will be torn down in the State ? What about Wallace St CC ?
I really doubt that any buildings will be "torn down" but I wouldn't shed a tear if every public building named after George Wallace was renamed. He was a truly awful person who did everything he possibly could to block the Civil Rights Movement after all.


You guys are something else. The Black community in AL came to love George Wallace. The man publicly asked for forgiveness. He put many Blacks in key positions across the state. People are allowed redemption when they deserve it, and he did. At least AL Blacks thought so as they were one of his most loyal groups in the 70s and 80s.
Posted by PlateJohnsonIII
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:05 pm to
You are one of the dumbest, strangest people on this website.
Posted by 3down10
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:05 pm to
I have no problem with it and don't see what the big deal is.



Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:06 pm to
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His chief biographer has heard them and says they shocked him to the core. He said King can be heard celebrating a woman's rape.



If it comes out that MLK was a womanizer and was involved in group sex and possibly crossing that line (which is likely).....then I will argue the same as I've done for Jefferson, Washington and Madison. Their work being celebrated and honored is not removed by their sinful acts.

If we decided to remove the human honors to men with sinful discretions there would only be honor to one man in the history of the World (who is due ultimate honor).
This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 11:08 pm
Posted by InGAButLoveBama
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:08 pm to
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His chief biographer has heard them and says they shocked him to the core. He said King can be heard celebrating a woman's rape.


If it comes out that MLK was a womanizer and was involved in group sex and possibly crossing that line (which is likely).....then I will argue the same as I've done for Jefferson, Washington and Madison. Their work being celebrated and honored is not removed by their sinful acts.


Except his chief biographer says King was cheering on the rape of a woman. Big difference.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:10 pm to
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Except his chief biographer says King was cheering on the rape of a woman. Big difference.


And many of our founders bought and sold human beings like they were cattle. I assume you still agree they should have cities named after them and monuments in their honor, no?
This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 11:11 pm
Posted by InGAButLoveBama
Member since Jan 2018
924 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:10 pm to
Should Egypt tear down monuments to pharoahs? Surely you don' think they were kinder to their slaves than old crackers in the South.

They will not stop at the CSA monuments. Some of you are just too cucked to know better. Sad. We warned you.
Posted by InGAButLoveBama
Member since Jan 2018
924 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:12 pm to
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re: Our University is not woke. Will remove Confederate plaques, study building namesPosted on 6/8/20 at 11:10 pm to InGAButLoveBama
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Except his chief biographer says King was cheering on the rape of a woman. Big difference.


And many of our founders bought and sold human beings like they were catrle. I assume you still agree they should have cities named after them and monuments in their honor, no?


I am not calling for any monuments to be removed. Not one. I am asking for consistency and for an end tp the selective anti White obsession that too many Whites are too cowardly to oppose.
This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 11:18 pm
Posted by Chuck Barris
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:12 pm to
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The Black community in AL came to love George Wallace.
You and I must know very different Black people.

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The man publicly asked for forgiveness.
Yep. Too bad he was about fifteen years too late and only did so once it was politically convenient instead of having this profound moral revelation when he could have prevented the murders and beatings of peaceful protesters instead of egging on their attackers.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:13 pm to
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Should Egypt tear down monuments to pharoahs? Surely you don' think they were kinder to their slaves than old crackers in the South.


I don't think the Egyptians built any monuments to the Israelites.

I don't think the Egyptians built any monuments to Napolean or to the Mamluks (there are Napoleanic monuments and statues.....built by Napolean).

Do the Mexicans have a lot of monuments to the French Intervention?
This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 11:20 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:16 pm to
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I am not calling for any monuments to be removed. Not one. I am asking for consistency and for an end the selective anti White obsession that too many Whites are too cowardly to oppose.


I think the belief that monuments honoring a failed rebellion as being innapropriate is a pretty rationally consistent belief.

Good luck with this whole "whites" thing, as if we are some group of people with the same history and beliefs.
Posted by InGAButLoveBama
Member since Jan 2018
924 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:19 pm to
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re: Our University is not woke. Will remove Confederate plaques, study building namesPosted on 6/8/20 at 11:12 pm to InGAButLoveBama
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The Black community in AL came to love George Wallace.
You and I must know very different Black people.

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The man publicly asked for forgiveness.
Yep. Too bad he was about fifteen years too late and only did so once it was politically convenient instead of having this profound moral revelation when he could have prevented the murders and beatings of peaceful protesters instead of egging on their attackers.


If you look at for whom they voted, they voted overwhelmingly for Wallace when he ran for governor in the 80s. He beat the Lt Governor by just a few thousand votes thanks to the loyalty of the Black voters.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:20 pm to
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3,130 or so signatures, on a website that is internationally accessible. So about 3,000 people out of 4.57 billion that use the internet worldwide. You're right; it's a fricking epidemic.





Like I said, it does not take much to research. A simple google returned these at the top.

Pete Buttigieg wants Jefferson-Jackson dinners renamed

And he used your logic: “Naming something after someone confers a lot of honor.”

And another:

Jefferson Is Next Target

At University of Missouri and William & Mary, some place notes on statues honoring the author of Declaration of Independence, calling him a rapist and a racist.

Princeton University students who object to having Woodrow Wilson's name on an academic unit and a residential college occupied the president's office and left only when promised that the university would review its use of the Wilson name. The students pointed out that Wilson was a racist who, as president of the United States

Black Lives Matter Protest Jefferson Statue at UVA.. the university he founded.

And I could go on and on.


Where doe it end?
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:21 pm to
They’ve removed/changed most (even tangentially related) confederate references from LSUs campus. Couple of big ones remain. Like why our mascot is the tigers

The problem, in Nola at least, is the removal of confederate monuments has led to a slippery slope where now the people in that are in that movement want to remove stuff like Andrew Jackson’s statue in Jackson Square

Kinda like how we went from police reform to defund police. It gets slippery baw.
This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 11:23 pm
Posted by InGAButLoveBama
Member since Jan 2018
924 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:22 pm to
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e: Our University is not woke. Will remove Confederate plaques, study building namesPosted on 6/8/20 at 11:16 pm to InGAButLoveBama
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I am not calling for any monuments to be removed. Not one. I am asking for consistency and for an end the selective anti White obsession that too many Whites are too cowardly to oppose.


I think the belief that monuments honoring a failed rebellion as being innapropriate is a pretty rationally consistent belief.

Good luck with this whole "whites" thing, as if we are some group of people with the same history and beliefs.


So you must not be paying attention because the SJWs constantly talk about the "problem of Whiteness." They have made race the issue. Not me.

I wish we did not have to discuss race, but as I have grown older I started noticing that only one group in the nation is not allowed to have pride in and concern for their racial group. Either race is just a social construct or not. They can't have it both ways.

And by the way, not all Blacks share the same history or beliefs, but they still have very strong racial consciousness.
This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 11:23 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:23 pm to
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The problem, in Nola at least, is the removal of confederate monuments has led to a slippery slope where now the people in that are in that movement want to remove stuff like Andrew Jackson’s statue in Jackson Square

Kinda like how we went from police reform to defund police. It gets slippery baw.


Of course it does - give an inch take a mile. It's not an easy gig.

The only way to survive and deal with these things is to ensure you are thinking through things in a clear headed, logical and consistent way, so that nobody can honestly say you are playing favorites or making intellectually dishonest decisions.

Then, you become comfortable with your decisions and let the chips fall where they may.
Posted by InGAButLoveBama
Member since Jan 2018
924 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:26 pm to
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re: Our University is not woke. Will remove Confederate plaques, study building namesPosted on 6/8/20 at 11:13 pm to InGAButLoveBama
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Should Egypt tear down monuments to pharoahs? Surely you don' think they were kinder to their slaves than old crackers in the South.


I don't think the Egyptians built any monuments to the Israelites.

I don't think the Egyptians built any monuments to Napolean or to the Mamluks (there are Napoleanic monuments and statues.....built by Napolean).

Do the Mexicans have a lot of monuments to the French Intervention?
This post was edited on 6/8 at 11:20 pm


You are not making any sense. The South made monuments to honor the deaths of so many Southerners, not Egyptians or Israelites, who fought valiantly, and most did not own slaves by the way. The South would have won had the North not used Irish and German conscripts to overwhelm the South. It is not like most Northerners wanted to shed blood to keep the Union together.
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