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re: Orgeron on offseason QB competition: “We in the locker room know who the best player is"

Posted on 7/10/21 at 3:34 pm to
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 7/10/21 at 3:34 pm to
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LSU has kept quite a few secrets in the locker room


Do tell.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93646 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 3:37 pm to
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Don't stop now. You're so close to responding to everyone in this thread

Posted by Purple Tiger King
Member since Jan 2021
2016 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 3:38 pm to
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He needs to learn to keep his mouth shut.


Really? Exactly what did he say that is so damn wrong? Did he lie? Did he let the cat out of the bag? Did he say he wasn't going to continue to let them fight it out? Did he say he was going to end the QB competition?

I mean all you geniuses are all utterly upset because Ed O is being honest and forthright, but exactly what is it you loons are all perceiving as being do damn wrong and do damn negative?

I mean the hypocrisy in this freaking thread is more than dripping. It's flooding. In fact, it really doesn't matter what Ed O says, you obsessed haters will always hate on him.

It doesn't matter that he won a Natty in only his third season and reeled in a $55 million dollar windfall at the same time and it also doesn't matte that Ed O is one of the most elite recruiters in the country. As all you loons just don't like the way he looks and sounds.
Posted by Purple Tiger King
Member since Jan 2021
2016 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 3:43 pm to
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We all told him to get a new pr guy…


Why? Explain why you perceive that he needs a new pr guy? Indeed, what's so freaking wrong with what he said and why are all you loons so up in arms about it?
Posted by Purple Tiger King
Member since Jan 2021
2016 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 3:53 pm to
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He dug a huge hole with his guys at the start of last season. As his squad marched in BLM and he was nowhere to be found, his comment was, "I need to know more about it."

If every part of your body goes into convulsions at the sound of BLM that's not the answer you send to a bunch of emotional teenagers skipping practice to make a statement as head coach.

Les Miles is smarter than Orgeron and that's not a compliment.


Let's see, in only his third season as the head coach at LSU, he won a Natty and at the same time reeled in a $55 million dollar windfall for LSU. He is also one of the most elite recruiters in all of college football, but according to this genius, who has the brain power of a flea, Les Miles is smarter than Orgeron.

I don't understand why ignoramuses like you insist on making fools out of yourself on message boards, but nevertheless, you loons do so on a regular basis.

Posted by Purple Tiger King
Member since Jan 2021
2016 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 3:55 pm to
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Even his own players. He proved that last year which was one reason so many opted out before the end of the season


Seek mental help, because you are severely unhinged.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93646 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 3:57 pm to
You really are related to Orgeron, aren't you?
Posted by Purple Tiger King
Member since Jan 2021
2016 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 4:24 pm to
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You really think that an AD came in and forced a hire on a head coach that just completed the best season college football had ever seen?


Yeah, but at the same time, I don't think Scott Woodward perceived it as being forced on Ed O. As he probably thought he was helping his friend Ed O out. In any event, Scott Woodward was the man who screened and hired Bo Pelini to be the DC and despite the fact that Bo Pelini hadn't coached a defense since in 2007 and was also completely ill prepared to stop modern day spread offenses.

Hence, since Bo Pelini was already hired by Scott Woodward, then why interview him? As he was already hired and it wasn't going to change anything.

Indeed, if Ed O didn't interview and screen Bo Pelini, then who else did? Obviously Scott Woodward interviewed and screened Bo Pelini and then hired him.

In addition, it's also the reason why Ed O felt the need to come out of the blue to confess he didn't interview Bo Pelini at anytime last season. It's because he wants Tiger Nation to know he wasn't responsible for that major fiasco.
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I bet you think that Alleva forced him to hire Matt Canada too.


Not only me but a ton of people besides only me also believe the same exact thing as well. As Alleva didn't twist Ed O's arm and force him to hire Canada.

Instead, after Lane Kiffin took the Florida Atlantic job, Joe Alleva who had already searched the OC market, told Ed O that Matt Canada was the hottest OC on the market and for O to go hire him. Ed O, after just getting the LSU head job, was very eager to please Joe Alleva, so he went and hired him.

Of course, Ed O had buyer's remorse soon after hiring him because he wasn't a spread offense OC and even though he told Ed O he was. Hence, Ed O got rid of him as soon as he could and promoted Steve Ensminger to OC.
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Yeah no shite. Because he didn't interview him.


And as he confessed.
Posted by Purple Tiger King
Member since Jan 2021
2016 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 4:26 pm to
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You really are related to Orgeron, aren't you?


No, not at all. I'm just not a Tom Herman fanboy like you.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93646 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 4:32 pm to
So, who hired Greg McMahon and Joe Brady? I'm assuming since these other guys were forced on Orgeron by two different ADs that all of the hires must have been forced on him too.

Who hired Jerry Sullivan, Mickey Joseph, Steve Ensminger and Scott Linehan? All of those guys got fired, needed help brought in or were reassigned after one year.

What makes more sense, Orgeron made a bunch of bad hires or two different ADs forced coordinator hires on him?
Posted by Purple Tiger King
Member since Jan 2021
2016 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 4:34 pm to
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Don't stop now. You're so close to responding to everyone in this thread


Nah, not really. I just down voted some of them.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30591 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 4:34 pm to
[quote
Explain exactly what is wrong in what he said? Was he lying? Did he let the cat out of the bag? Did he say he wasn't going to let them fight it out to the end? Is he ending the QB competition early?[/quote]

“We in the locker room know who the best player is, there ain’t no question, everybody knows."
...and you don't think that presents a problem?
Posted by Purple Tiger King
Member since Jan 2021
2016 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 4:35 pm to
Maybe an idiot for you, but at least I'm not a Tom Herman fanboy.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93646 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 4:36 pm to
What does Tom Herman have to do with anything?
Posted by KingOfTheWorld
Member since Oct 2018
5363 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 4:36 pm to
Dude just can’t keep his mouth shut.

“We’re gonna beat their arse every time they see us.”

55-17
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52355 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 4:42 pm to
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“We’re gonna beat their arse every time they see us.”

55-17


Bammers swear LSU fans are stuck in the past yet we see some version of this statement at least once per day

Posted by Purple Tiger King
Member since Jan 2021
2016 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 5:15 pm to
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So, who hired Greg McMahon and Joe Brady?


Ed O did. As he had previously worked with Greg McMahon.

After Ensminger recommended he should hire Joe Brady because Brady promised he would bring Sean Payton's offensive playbook with him, Ed O interviewed Brady to confirmed that he was really going to bring Sean Payton's playbook with him and then hired him, and what a great hire he was.

Why you ask? You have a problem with either of those two hires?

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Who hired Jerry Sullivan, Mickey Joseph, Steve Ensminger and Scott Linehan? All of those guys got fired, needed help brought in or were reassigned after one year.


Fired only after one year? Woa, you better put down the crack pipe when posting.

Of course, Ed O hired everyone of them. As Jerry Sullivan was also a long time friend of Ed O and came highly recommended. Nonetheless, I don't think Jerry Sullivan was all that great personally myself to be honest and so I wasn't sorry to see him leave, but he wasn't fired. He went back into retirement.

Mickey Joseph is a great hire because he is a great recruiter. When was Mickey Joseph fired? Like I said, you better put down the crack. Indeed, he is Ed O's assistant head coach.

Ed O promoted Steve Ensminger to OC because he was exceedingly experienced. I mean, Joe Brady provided Sean Payton's playbook but hardly any experience, while Steve Ensminger had plenty of experience to spare.

Not to mention that in the off season between 2018 and 2019, Steve Ensminger also morphed Joe Burrow from the very average QB he was in 2018, into becoming the greatest college football QB ever in history. As Steve Ensminger had previously did the same thing for UGA great QB Eric Zeier when he was with UGA back in the 90s.

However, Steve Ensminger wasn't fired. He retired. In fact, he wanted to retire after the 2019 season and would have happily retired had Joe Brady decided to take the OC job he was offered by Woodward and turned down.

I know a lot of you Tom Herman fans never perceived Steve Ensminger as being an asset, but he was. A very valuable asset no matter how much you morons continue to foolishly deny it.

Of course, Scott Linehan was also hired by Ed O to work with Steve Ensminger for his final season and there isn't anything remotely wrong with that hire. As LSU's offense during the first three games of the season in 2020, was as good as the 2019 record setting offense. Of course, the offensive production took a big hit after Myles went down, but that wasn't either of their faults or Ed O's fault, for that matter.

Now, Ed O subsequently let Linehan go after the 2020 season, but that's because Ed O wanted to go with a youth movement to be better in tune with the players. I mean, it is Ed O's prerogative to change his mind when he becomes aware of certain things that led him to change his mind. As the BLM situation opened up Ed O's eyes and a lot of other people's eyes as well.

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What makes more sense, Orgeron made a bunch of bad hires or two different ADs forced coordinator hires on him?



Well, since Ed O didn't make a bunch of bad hires as you Tom Herman fanboys claim, the former can't be correct.

As far as being forced, I don't think either one of those two AD's perceived it that way, but soon after Canada was at LSU, it had to become very apparent to Alleva that Ed O didn't want anything to do with the hire. With respect to Bo Pelini, I'm sure Woodward himself realizes what a fiasco that situation was and I don't think we will ever see a repeat situation ever again.

In any event, despite what all you Tom Herman fanboys foolishly claim, Ed O won a a Natty in only his third season as the head coach and at the same time, reeled in a $55 million dollar windfall for the university. Not to mention that Ed O is one of the most elite recruiters in all of college football.

Meanwhile, Tom Herman, after only his fourth season had to go find another job.
This post was edited on 7/10/21 at 5:27 pm
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93646 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 5:22 pm to
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Why you ask? You have a problem with either of those two hires?

McMahon and Brady were fantastic hires. But, how come only the bad hires were done by the ADs?
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Fired only after one year? Woa, you better put down the crack pipe when posting.

Linehan, Canada, Sullivan and Pelini were all fired after one year.

Mickey Joseph was reassigned after one year and Ensminger had to have help brought in after one year. That makes all of those bad hires.

You see, I like to give credit and assign blame when it's deserved. I'm not gonna sit here and make excuses for people like you do. I mean, for frick's sake you claim that the Troy loss was Miles' fault.
Posted by Purple Tiger King
Member since Jan 2021
2016 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 6:13 pm to
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But, how come only the bad hires were done by the ADs?


It's a coincidence I guess. But nonetheless, both those hires went down the way they did. It is what it is. As both those guys are AD's and not head football coaches.

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Linehan, Canada, Sullivan and Pelini were all fired after one year.


Linehan was let go after one season and it wasn't because he did a bad job. It's because Ed O wanted a youth movement.

Canada was fired because he wasn't a spread offense OC. That and because he was also very rude to the players. Nonetheless, the primary reason why he was hired, to begin with, was because Alleva told Ed O to go hire him and Ed O after just being awarded the head coaching job by Alleva, did so because he wanted to please his new boss.

Sullivan wasn't fired. He retired.

Pelini was fired after the season because he was a major f--k up. But Pelini wasn't hired by Ed O, in any event.

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Mickey Joseph was reassigned after one year and Ensminger had to have help brought in after one year. That makes all of those bad hires.


You're a mega idiot. Ed O hired Mickey Joseph for one reason and one reason alone, and that reason is because he is an exceedingly good recruiter and also because Ed O needed someone who could recruit New Orleans. Moreover, Mickey was not only promoted to assistant head coach, but he still also coaches the freaking wide receivers. He earns his freaking money and is an exceedingly good hire. As you are obviously more than just a few cards short of making up a full deck.

As far as Ensminger goes, he was the one who found Joe Brady and brought him to Ed O's attention. Why he did it? Obviously, to put the team first. As Ensminger doesn't have a big ego and was willing to do whatever was necessary to make LSU great.

Indeed, Ed O asked Ensminger if he had anyone in mind to hire to be the new Passing Game Coordinator, and Steve Ensminger recommended hiring Joe Brady because he was going to bring the Sean Payton Saints offensive playbook with him. So Ed O did and it turned out to be a wonderful hire.

But nonetheless, you dumb moron, Joe Brady wasn't hired to be Ensminger's help or aid, he was hired to replace the previous former Passing Game Coordinator after that guy had just previously retired. Are you utterly unhinged? Very apparently!
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You see, I like to give credit and assign blame when it's deserved.


That's a Gawd damn lie. You're so blinded by your hatred for Ed O and your love for Tom Herman that you are completely lost in space and don't even know if you are even coming and going. Indeed, it's pretty pathetic if you ask me.

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I'm not gonna sit here and make excuses for people like you do. I mean, for frick's sake you claim that the Troy loss was Miles' fault.


The truth doesn't constitute excuses. The truth is the truth and only the truth can set you free.

In addition, I never said anything about the Troy loss. That's more proof that you are not only exceedingly delusional but utterly unhinged at the same time.
Posted by Purple Tiger King
Member since Jan 2021
2016 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 6:20 pm to
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What does Tom Herman have to do with anything?


That's what I said, but you dumb LSU morons were infatuated with that incompetent anyway.
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