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re: OM LB Denzel Nkemdiche reportedly in an Oxford ICU

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Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
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Posted on 11/19/15 at 11:06 am to
You said

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It's criminal to compare them to someone that uses drugs or alcohol and BECOMES addicted.



But it's different if someone gets cancer from smoking?
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 11/19/15 at 11:09 am to
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Ole Miss' Robert Nkemdiche is finally having the type of season people expected of a former No. 1 recruit in the country, but he's not chalking it up to weight room exploits or a better understanding of football.

He instead attributes his personal success to Zen, centering himself and music from groups like The Grateful Dead and Pink Floyd.


Ha! Thanks. Right on, Robert, right on.
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
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34244 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 11:09 am to
Is diabetes equal to AIDS. Can you even define disease?
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
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86042 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 11:10 am to
How much clearer can I put it?

The addiction led to a disease. The addiction in of itself is not a disease.
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 11/19/15 at 11:12 am to
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Is diabetes equal to AIDS.

They are both diseases, so in that way, yes.

Do you think my having headaches in the morning from lack of caffeine is a disease, yes or no?
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
34244 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 11:14 am to
Ok. Well mainstream science and mainstream medicine disagree.


And my point is you said people gave themselves addiction and it was criminal to compare to cancer, so I pointed out that it could be argued and probably proven that many smokers gave themselves cancer. So does that mean it would be criminal to compare these cancer patients to cancer patients who didn't contribute to their cancer?

But please carry on with your anger.
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 11/19/15 at 11:18 am to
Why do you refuse to answer my question?
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Do you think my having headaches in the morning from lack of caffeine is a disease, yes or no?

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But please carry on with your anger.

I'm angry because I have a different position on addiction than you.

The go to line when one doesn't want to address your points.

(But seriously, I've probably unintentionally hijacked this thread, so will step out. Apologies to the other posters, and no hard feelings. )
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
34244 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 11:31 am to
If the headache is caused by


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a disorder of structure or function in a human, especially one that produces specific signs or symptoms or that affects a specific location and is not simply a direct result of physical injury.


Then yes.
Posted by arkiebrian
NWA
Member since Nov 2006
4167 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 11:32 am to
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I lost a brother to synthetic weed... caused some serious seizures and his body was too badly damaged to fight off infections..Was a slow death in a hospital.

Terrifying...and I'm sorry for your loss. How awful.

Honestly I believe the death rate associated with "synthetic weed" is pretty damn high. It may be the highest of all drugs if you consider the death rate vs the number of people that are simply experimenting with it.

Sure we all hear about heroin/meth addicts overdosing but these people have been abusing for long periods of time. Its not like they just fired up once and met their maker.
Posted by arkiebrian
NWA
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 11/19/15 at 11:36 am to
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I've never liked the term disease. I've smoked for most of 17 years, and have dropped it without any problems, except I get to see how bad this Irish temper really becomes.

It's not the same for everybody. I have had no problem dropping bad habits either but there are plenty of people who simply aren't able to do that as easily as I can.
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
25080 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 11:42 am to
I don't see addiction as a disease. But there is no doubt that certain people's brain chemistry makes chances our drug use and addiction higher. Some can snort a line of coke without a problem, others will go on a multi-day binge.

I think addiction has been called a disease, to help people become more sympathetic to addicts of hard drugs, and to allow it to be medically treated with rehab. If it's not a disease, why would insurance pay for it?

I think anyone with a rational mind can see that treating drugs as a criminal matter, instead of a public health matter, has created a lot of negative consequences in our society. The drug war has done nothing but turn is into there most incarcerated society in human history!

We've created more criminals by locking up people involved with drugs. It's created a more violent society having so many people in prisons. We as a society must rethink our outlook.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
41945 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 11:42 am to
thoughts and Prayers with the kid


Do the players do Synthetic Weed to pass drug test? aka whats the point? just more fun?
Posted by skirpnasty
Atlantis
Member since Aug 2012
10789 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 11:44 am to
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And neither LSD nor weed are addictive in anyway.




That's why people wake up and smoke it in the morning, carry around a dugout and take rips like they would a cig, right?

You can be addicted to anything. Just because your body doesn't become physically dependent on it doesn't mean there isn't an addiction.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
28550 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 11:46 am to
Not reading 14 pages of this crap. What's he hospitalized for, and what's the latest?
Posted by arkiebrian
NWA
Member since Nov 2006
4167 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 11:47 am to
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I think anyone with a rational mind can see that treating drugs as a criminal matter, instead of a public health matter, has created a lot of negative consequences in our society. The drug war has done nothing but turn is into there most incarcerated society in human history!

I couldn't agree more. It's also caused thousands of deaths both here and abroad. Tens of thousands south of the border.
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
37538 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 11:48 am to
Is Hugh Freeze going to be forced out?
Posted by BallstotheWesleyWall
Swagosphere
Member since Jan 2014
9364 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 11:48 am to
So sorry to hear about that. It's some very dangerous stuff.
Posted by hehatedrew
New Zealand
Member since Oct 2009
25504 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 11:50 am to
We apparently have hundreds of clinical psychologists on this board from varying schools and one ICU housekeeper from State. I think that pretty much sums up this thread...
Posted by hehatedrew
New Zealand
Member since Oct 2009
25504 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 11:51 am to
Yes
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
37538 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 11:52 am to
Is Hugh Freeze going to be forced out?
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