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re: Ole Miss' nickname is derived from a train of the early 1900's

Posted on 10/27/14 at 1:43 pm to
Posted by HarryBalzack
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 1:43 pm to
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Ole Misses nickname is derived from a train


WC Handy knew about Claire, too?
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 1:47 pm to
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So we all agree, then? Ole Miss came from the term used by slaves to address the master's wife?


agreed

case closed
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 1:53 pm to
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So we all agree, then? Ole Miss came from the term used by slaves to address the master's wife?



The Ole Miss nickname became synonymous with the university in 1908 due to the Old Miss train. Are you actually suggesting that students in 1908 started using this term because it was used in the Antebellum South?
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 1:56 pm to
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Are you actually suggesting that students in 1908


Are you actually suggesting that students in 1908 wouldn't have heard all about the stories, etc from their old relatives? There definitely was no animosity towards those of a darker skin color from any of those good ol' boys in 1908, right?
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
11305 posts
Posted on 10/27/14 at 2:13 pm to
To say racism and a connection to the old south wasn't ongoing in 1908 is just retardtacular. Sorry it's not a good argument position.

It was in 2009 that your students were fighting to hold on to the stars and bars, Col Reb, and Dixie with the South will rise again chant.

It's the past, gotta be 5 years now. You've changed mascots, and the battle flag is discouraged. I'm sure there isn't much racism on campus now. Let it go.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 2:17 pm to
I don't believe a word you say, you jive arse turkey.
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 2:22 pm to
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Toddy


This is a bit off topic for you isn't it?
Posted by Darkknight
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 3:07 pm to
I stated that I did read other links in my first post. Some say it's a wise tail, some say it isn't. Maybe they did name the school after a train that had little to do with the school. And maybe they named it after the school's official yearbook which had been published every year for the prior 10 years. Either way, the term Ole Miss originated as term which slaves used for the plantation owners wife.
This post was edited on 10/27/14 at 3:16 pm
Posted by LSUCouyon
ONTHELAKEATDELHI, La.
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 3:16 pm to
Not sure I could find a reference, but I remember reading LONG ago, when I was at LSU near last mid-century, the two schools referred to each other as Ole Miss and Ole Lou.
Glad your name stuck!
Oh and go To Hell Ole Miss, Go TO Hell!
To ole farts like me, you will always be a bitter rival.
Posted by LSUCouyon
ONTHELAKEATDELHI, La.
Member since Oct 2006
11329 posts
Posted on 10/27/14 at 3:30 pm to
"Ole War Skule
LSU began in 1860 as the Louisiana State Seminary of Learning and Military Academy, shortly before
the beginning of the Civil War. In fact, LSU's first superintendent was Civil War commander William
Tecumseh Sherman. "Ole War Skule" was formerly a popular reference to LSU, as was the term "Old
Lou".

Googled OLE LOU Reference LSU, got this. I knew I read it somewhare, thought maybe the two schools used the names against each other.

Go to Hell Ole Lou just doesn't sound right.....
This post was edited on 10/27/14 at 3:31 pm
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 3:32 pm to
Now there is only one Old Lou:

Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 3:33 pm to
Good stuff
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 3:37 pm to
But your Chancelor says otherwise
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 3:39 pm to
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But your Chancelor says otherwise



Link ?
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 3:47 pm to
Obvious photoshops are obvious. ReBearsharks are getting desperate.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55524 posts
Posted on 10/27/14 at 3:49 pm to
I'm not going to bump the thread from this morning. It's obvious this thread is a counter to it because it was so upsetting. And I didn't start it to upset y'all I just thought the origin of the nickname was interesting.
The article is linked in it and your Chancelor is quoted in it.

But why not say it's ancient history instead of sticking to a made up train story?
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 3:50 pm to
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why not say it's ancient history instead of sticking to a made up train story?


Because Ole Miss people would rather lie. You don't know them very well.
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 3:52 pm to
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I'm not going to bump the thread from this morning. It's obvious this thread is a counter to it because it was so upsetting. And I didn't start it to upset y'all I just thought the origin of the nickname was interesting.
The article is linked in it and your Chancelor is quoted in it.


I read your link. The chancellor is quoted, but he is only quoted saying that the name is supported (not only by the people of Mississippi, but by the faculty as well). How does that prove a point for you?
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
27250 posts
Posted on 10/27/14 at 4:01 pm to
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The article is linked in it and your Chancelor is quoted in it.



No where in that article is he quoted saying the university's nickname derived from an appreciation or anything related thereof what a slave master's wife was called.

The ridiculous ends one has to go to to connect a nickname in 1908 becoming attached to a university with what happened in the Antebellum South is beyond ridiculous. Lot's of gullible idiots out there though that love to believe this, no matter how stupid they look.

And I call bs on the reason you started this thread. This has been hashed out a gazillion times on this forum. It's apparent you're wanting to troll Ole Miss people. Be a man and admit it.
Posted by tom1987
Member since Aug 2011
618 posts
Posted on 10/27/14 at 4:06 pm to
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Are you actually suggesting that students in 1908 started using this term because it was used in the Antebellum South?

The Civil War ended in 1865. It is very likely the parents, uncles, and grandparents of the Ole Miss students of 1908 fought in the war 43 years before. That is like 1971 compared to 2014. It's like forgetting the word 'hippie' existed because the Viet Nam war ended.
Ole Miss was a common term, like massa, used by slaves during the war and then former slaves after the war.
If you don't believe me, google "slave narratives, a folk history of slavery in the united states" and read the words directly from the mouths of former slaves. The slave narratives were taken in the 1930's and the former slaves still referred to the plantation owners wife as Ole Miss, which shows the word was not "forgotten" from antebellum days.
I understand that you don't want this to be true... I wouldn't either... but it is.
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