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re: Oklahoma won’t be the next Nebraska…
Posted on 11/1/24 at 1:30 pm to MizzouTrue
Posted on 11/1/24 at 1:30 pm to MizzouTrue
I think the better reason to compare them to Arkansas is that when the Hogs were first starting to move to the SEC we were coming off Broyles, Holtz, and Hatfield as our HCs. We weren't in the national title hunt every year, but most years we weren't that far off the mark.
And.... then Broyles drove Hatfield off and we went from the penthouse to the outhouse. We still made the SEC championship a few times (Nutt was a great fundraiser, a fairly lousy game day coach) but other than a couple of years when Petrino was the HC and in his prime we have very much been led by a string of HCs who were, at the very best, thunderously average. And at worst... Chad.
That is the danger that Oklahoma is facing. Venerables is a great DC who doesn't appear to be a great HC in the SEC. If the Sooners pick poorly when they replace him, or hold onto him too long, they will be just another small population state fighting the SEC juggernauts. If they can upgrade, or Brent proves us all wrong, they'll be fine.
And.... then Broyles drove Hatfield off and we went from the penthouse to the outhouse. We still made the SEC championship a few times (Nutt was a great fundraiser, a fairly lousy game day coach) but other than a couple of years when Petrino was the HC and in his prime we have very much been led by a string of HCs who were, at the very best, thunderously average. And at worst... Chad.
That is the danger that Oklahoma is facing. Venerables is a great DC who doesn't appear to be a great HC in the SEC. If the Sooners pick poorly when they replace him, or hold onto him too long, they will be just another small population state fighting the SEC juggernauts. If they can upgrade, or Brent proves us all wrong, they'll be fine.
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Posted on 11/1/24 at 1:36 pm to MizzouTrue
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They’ll be the next Arkansas
You wish.
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OU will still be a player in the SEC, they’ll have some great seasons, but they won’t be a top team in the SEC like they were in the Big8/Big12
Well no shite. No sane Sooner fan thought otherwise
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same as Arkansas coming from the SWC
Comparing the SWC and the Big XII are apples & oranges.
Big 8/XII: Colorado, Nebraska, post-Snyder K State, Post-Sherill A&M, Texas, Oklahoma, OSU, the good version of TCU.
SWC: Texas, plus a bunch of shite teams who had zero relevance besides the 1930's and 1960's.
Arkansas: 13 total conference championships. OU has 14 this century alone. I am not intentionally trashing Arkansas. But you're comparing apples and oranges.
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JayAg
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It’s going to be interesting to see if Sooners can recruit as well as they did in the Big 12. They we’re conference championships there just about every year and sold that to recruits.
OU's recruiting has been markedly better since joining the SEC. The problem is, BV is learning on the job and didn't realize OU had a grand total of 4 OL recruits in a 2-year span from 2021-2022. If his offense doesn't make a miraculous turnaround next year, it will be his last.
Posted on 11/1/24 at 1:37 pm to JayAg
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It’s going to be interesting to see if Sooners can recruit as well as they did in the Big 12
We're working on some good classes right now. Depending if there's a coaching shake up at the end of the season, hopefully we don't lose any. I don't know WTF happened with our OL recruits tho. I know we lost guys last year to graduation and the portal that caught the staff off guard or what. Either way there's no excise for it.
Moving to the SEC will only improve the classes, provided we quit shitting the bed. Other than Oklahoma and Texas there really wasn't a lot to recruits in B12 area and we've been pulling from the SE US and the West for a while
Posted on 11/1/24 at 1:37 pm to Arksulli
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That is the danger that Oklahoma is facing. Venerables is a great DC who doesn't appear to be a great HC in the SEC. If the Sooners pick poorly when they replace him, or hold onto him too long, they will be just another small population state fighting the SEC juggernauts. If they can upgrade, or Brent proves us all wrong, they'll be fine.
Agree 1000%
Posted on 11/1/24 at 1:37 pm to MizzouTrue
Look, the past greatness of Oklahoma has been undeniably exposed by NIL. They cheated, ok? It's easy to keep it all under wraps when you're tucked away in Norman (or Tuscaloosa) where all the homers felt the ends justified the means.
Texas and Texas A&M had a harder time just outright cheating because Texas media is not solely in support of their success, as in the smaller states. But now that these two can legally throw it around, the backwoods cheaters are at a disadvantage.
It actually pisses me off to think about it - we took so much crap about doing "less with more" from these cheating arse schools. No, we were just playing fair.
So frick Oklahoma.
Addendum - In addition, prestige and integrity mean a lot more to AAU schools, and it is more crucial and embarrassing to get caught double-dealing and four-flushing. OU couldn't give a shite.
Texas and Texas A&M had a harder time just outright cheating because Texas media is not solely in support of their success, as in the smaller states. But now that these two can legally throw it around, the backwoods cheaters are at a disadvantage.
It actually pisses me off to think about it - we took so much crap about doing "less with more" from these cheating arse schools. No, we were just playing fair.
So frick Oklahoma.
Addendum - In addition, prestige and integrity mean a lot more to AAU schools, and it is more crucial and embarrassing to get caught double-dealing and four-flushing. OU couldn't give a shite.
This post was edited on 11/1/24 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 11/1/24 at 1:39 pm to JayAg
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Will they sink, stay steady or rise? Who knows, but it will be interesting to watch.
IDK, it will be interesting to see. Texas and A&M can only hope their recruiting goes backwards. The most likely beneficiaries are those two Universities if OU misses out on Texas recruits mostly from the metroplex.
Posted on 11/1/24 at 1:39 pm to MtVernon
BLAH BLAH BLAH....
Injuries through the roof and a bad OC hire.
You Girls keep wishing though...
Injuries through the roof and a bad OC hire.
You Girls keep wishing though...
Posted on 11/1/24 at 1:39 pm to MtVernon
Damn what a melt. 
Posted on 11/1/24 at 1:44 pm to Hback
Yeah yer both ghetto fux.
Posted on 11/1/24 at 1:45 pm to MtVernon
Posted on 11/1/24 at 1:45 pm to Hback
Nice selfie.
Posted on 11/1/24 at 1:47 pm to MtVernon
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yer both ghetto fux.
Racist POS.
Posted on 11/1/24 at 2:04 pm to MizzouTrue
Oklahoma was hurt dramatically by the emergence of programs like A&M, TCU, and LSU. They used to have a monopoly on the Dallas recruiting scene up until the early 2010’s.
Posted on 11/1/24 at 2:07 pm to Golfer1
Arkansas:
1989: 10-2
1990: 3-8
1991: 6-6
I’d call that “slight decline” before entering the SEC in 1992. 6-6 may be a banner year for Arky today, but in the early 90s that wasn’t impressive for them
1989: 10-2
1990: 3-8
1991: 6-6
I’d call that “slight decline” before entering the SEC in 1992. 6-6 may be a banner year for Arky today, but in the early 90s that wasn’t impressive for them
Posted on 11/1/24 at 2:35 pm to MizzouTrue
These threads are stupid.
Oklahoma as a program decided to make a massive change to how they played football. Going from an offensive minded team to a defensive minded team.
You're going to have growing pains doing that.
I'm not saying BV is great or whatever, but they've got a pretty good defense now. And with all the injuries and such they've had on offense, it's not really fair to judge them offensively right now.
With all those offensive injuries, they'd probably be worse than now if they were still offensive minded.
In the long run, Oklahoma will do better than Texas in teh conference. I don't know what the frick you guys are smoking, but you should probably stop.
Oklahoma as a program decided to make a massive change to how they played football. Going from an offensive minded team to a defensive minded team.
You're going to have growing pains doing that.
I'm not saying BV is great or whatever, but they've got a pretty good defense now. And with all the injuries and such they've had on offense, it's not really fair to judge them offensively right now.
With all those offensive injuries, they'd probably be worse than now if they were still offensive minded.
In the long run, Oklahoma will do better than Texas in teh conference. I don't know what the frick you guys are smoking, but you should probably stop.
Posted on 11/1/24 at 2:47 pm to 3down10
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In the long run, Oklahoma will do better than Texas in teh conference. I don't know what the frick you guys are smoking, but you should probably stop.
Hilarious. You refuse to process the truth. I guess you have no choice but to think this way, because Bama is in the same boat.
You ain't gonna buy players away from Texas, or even Texas A&M for that matter. It's over.
Posted on 11/1/24 at 2:50 pm to 3down10
I read their OC hot board. They have Dan Mullen on there. That isn’t a serious list.
Posted on 11/1/24 at 2:59 pm to Hback
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Racist POS.
Damn home chill.. don't bust a cap or nuthin
Posted on 11/1/24 at 3:29 pm to MtVernon
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Hilarious. You refuse to process the truth. I guess you have no choice but to think this way, because Bama is in the same boat.
You ain't gonna buy players away from Texas, or even Texas A&M for that matter. It's over.
At no point in history has anyone prevented Texas or anyone else from spending tons of money on the program to give the players the best possible staff, facilities, training and so on.
No different than when you stupid fricks claimed you could buy Saban, and yet you wouldn't even come up with the amount required to do that. Instead, you ended up spending about half the price on a head coach and picked up like Strong and Herman for $5 mil or some shite.
Or how about any other big name coach like Urban Meyer? Or since Texas is so great, why not pick out some guys from the NFL like Alabama did when they hired Saban? Alabama made Saban the highest paid coach, not Texas. They just weren't good enough for Texas, but Charlie Strong was the real winner?
And how about your actual recruiting? 6th so far this year, 6th last year. Managed a 3rd in 2023, but had only 4 5 stars, half Alabama. Transfers? Not great there either.
But now, suddenly you're going to outspend everyone. And it's over for everyone else, despite the fact you have yet to beat Alabama or Georgia in recruiting.
So exactly when is this spending going to start showing? On the field? Well so far this season you have 0 top25 wins and when you played Georgia you looked like a high school team.
As usual, the biggest export from Texas is bullshite.
This post was edited on 11/1/24 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 11/1/24 at 3:37 pm to 3down10
You didn't win, I'm just tired of messing with you.
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