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re: Odell Beckham will never be allowed at LSU again

Posted on 3/12/22 at 2:50 pm to
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68491 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 2:50 pm to
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For Odell handing out money after the game? Would that have made those players ineligible before the game? Or do you not understand the logic in how and why games are vacated?
The NCAA literally changed minor violations to level 1 violations in the middle of an investigation against Ole Miss to make the punishments more severe. They also allowed witness testimony from a player of a rival school to say he got payments from Ole Miss and Mississippi State during his recruitment. They then gave that player and State immunity from punishments.

The NCAA doesn’t use logic. They will literally change their own rules in order to punish whoever they are after.
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 2:50 pm to
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For Odell handing out money after the game? Would that have made those players ineligible before the game? Or do you not understand the logic in how and why games are vacated?


The NCAA is alleging a culture of permissiveness and non-oversight. As such, the payment of players for winning the game (and there’s really not too many ways to interpret what OBJ was doing) in clear view of LSU staff could easily be interpreted as payment for the game.
This post was edited on 3/12/22 at 2:52 pm
Posted by WoodyOrnamental
Member since Sep 2021
964 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 2:50 pm to
OB is the perfect representative for lsu. So accurate.
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
2733 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 2:51 pm to
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He's a moron, but the NCAA has no say so in who the CFP Champions are

Not that I think they will, but they sure as shite can vacate wins if a violation occurred. I guess you can still have a championship without any recorded wins during a season. And if the LSU faithful can deem an entire season an asterisk, I think they have established they are pretty loosey goosey with who gets to make the call with what wins count and which don’t.
Posted by cramps
Member since Oct 2012
2085 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 2:51 pm to
Good thing he won a Super Bowl then.
Posted by lechateau
Member since Dec 2021
967 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 2:51 pm to
He could have done it in the lockerroom and nobody would have cared...but it was all about himself and his publicity never the players
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64549 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 2:55 pm to
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could easily be interpreted as payment for the game.




ok
Posted by Ironlung
Central Arkansas
Member since Nov 2017
1301 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 2:55 pm to
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For Odell handing out money after the game? Would that have made those players ineligible before the game?
You still don't seem to understand that football was also found in violation of LOIC.

It's absurd on its face you could actually believe what we saw on live TV was the only time it happened. But you're still claiming to believe it when the NOA proves it wasn't.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64549 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 3:01 pm to
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You still don't seem to understand that football was also found in violation of LOIC.

LOIC doesn’t mean they vacate every game from 2012-2020. You vacate games when ineligible players were playing. I don’t think you understand how any of this works. But it’s not unusual for people to want to see carnage
This post was edited on 3/12/22 at 3:03 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52473 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 3:03 pm to
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You still don't seem to understand that football was also found in violation of LOIC.



You don't really seem to understand how any of this works.
Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
3650 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 3:23 pm to
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Well, they sorta do to an extent.

No they don't. The BCS chose to vacate USC's championship, not the NCAA. There is a difference.

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When USC’s 2004 season was vacated in 2009 or so, it meant that the BCS Championship game was also vacated.

What college football fan does not recognize USC as the 2004 national champions outside of us Auburn fans? None. Also, the AP still recognizes USC as the 2004 champs...just as they would LSU in 2019.

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The BCS established a precedent by nullifying the trophy with that game, and since the CFP is the successor organization to the BCS (for a all practical legal purposes, they are the same organization),

The BCS set a precedent FOR THE BCS! The CFP can do whatever they want. And, they are not, in this purpose, the same organization.

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it would be logical for the CFP to follow that precedent.

Now, you just lost your argument with this statement...when has college football ever used logic to determine a national champion?

Trust me, as an Auburn fan, I am extremely familiar with the 2004 USC situation. Tommy Tuberville was completely correct when he stated in 2010 that the only way to really have USC vacate the title would be for another team to be declared national champions (Auburn or OU in this case). Not everyone would accept it, but there would be some team not named USC that could claim the title that year. Not naming a replacement is not really doing anything. Most every college football fan recognizes USC as the 2004 champs.
Posted by NorthPark
Houston
Member since Jul 2021
302 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 4:41 pm to
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Games are removed from records because of ineligible players playing in said game. Please layout how this proves ineligible players played in 2019?


I cannot think of any previous example to question this post. It is a good point until somebody can show something from history to show otherwise.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 5:02 pm to
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Make them vacate or even forfeit the win. If the game never happened on record, they aren’t the champs


A drunk man was handing out money after lsu won the national championship Congrats on your moral victory.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 5:05 pm to
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OB is the perfect representative for lsu. So accurate.


And Johnny football is a perfect example of Aggies. Took money and is a loser who never won anything.
Posted by big d 18
Member since Dec 2021
748 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 5:10 pm to
EXACTLY....
Posted by RumHam
Huntsville
Member since Jun 2021
3687 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 5:15 pm to
*
Posted by big d 18
Member since Dec 2021
748 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 5:16 pm to
could not have said it better.... the absolute truth....
Posted by Ironlung
Central Arkansas
Member since Nov 2017
1301 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 6:40 pm to
No. YOU don't understand
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52473 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 6:41 pm to
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No. YOU don't understand


Explain it to me then
Posted by Ironlung
Central Arkansas
Member since Nov 2017
1301 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 6:43 pm to
It would be easier explaining the grand unification theory to my sisters kids
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