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re: Notre Dame takes shots at Brian Kelly for no reason?

Posted on 6/14/25 at 12:55 pm to
Posted by captdalton
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Posted on 6/14/25 at 12:55 pm to
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So Brian Kelly at Notre Dame is considered great and acceptable if this is the standard?


You asked if Sarkisian would keep his job, not if he was great. Who has said Sarkisian is great other than you?

Both Kelly and Sarkisian have made the playoffs twice. Sarkisian has made it the last two years in a row while Kelly has made it once in the last six.

No one will consider either great unless they win multiple national championships.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 6/14/25 at 12:58 pm to
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Any logical person can understand that not all playoff wins or major bowl wins are equal


All of Brian Kelly’s playoff and major bowl wins are equal.

Equally imaginary.
This post was edited on 6/14/25 at 1:00 pm
Posted by John Casey
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 6/14/25 at 1:11 pm to
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You asked if Sarkisian would keep his job, not if he was great. Who has said Sarkisian is great other than you?

Both Kelly and Sarkisian have made the playoffs twice. Sarkisian has made it the last two years in a row while Kelly has made it once in the last six.

No one will consider either great unless they win multiple national championships.


Great was the wrong word choice. That's my bad.

I would just expect Sark to start catching a lot of heat much like Kelly did if he continues to lose semifinal matchups.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 6/14/25 at 1:13 pm to
crapdalton makes contradictory "points" and is then forced to crawfish and deflect.

His next post will be some type of projection.

Typical, like clockwork.


Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 6/14/25 at 2:07 pm to
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SidewalkTiger


Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 6/14/25 at 2:17 pm to
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I would just expect Sark to start catching a lot of heat much like Kelly did if he continues to lose semifinal matchups.


I am sure if he comes close but doesn’t seal the deal there will be some grumbling.

But it would be lunacy for any AD to fire a coach who is regularly making the playoffs.

The fact is, regardless of what he does, some fans will want him fired. Some Alabama fans called for Saban to be fired at various times over the years. There aren’t many game threads here when someone doesn’t demand their coach be fired immediately. The best threads are when one fanbase calls for their coach’s head in the first half, but they come back in the second half and the other side demands their coach be fired.

Remember, people here live and die possession by possession. If a team scores they can’t lose, if they have to punt they are doomed. This place is the world champion of overreactions.

If any of these top paid coaches go 5 years without a playoff appearance though, chances are they will be fired/forced out.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 6/14/25 at 2:49 pm to
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If any of these top paid coaches go 5 years without a playoff appearance though, chances are they will be fired/forced out.

There are many coaches that will never make the playoffs. Will there be a better HC out that would want to give a try and take a gamble?
Posted by Dallaswho
Texas
Member since Dec 2023
3357 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 3:05 pm to
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If any of these top paid coaches go 5 years without a playoff appearance though, chances are they will be fired/forced out.

What if they go 22 years without winning any postseason game of significance?
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 6/14/25 at 4:39 pm to
Checking in.

Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/14/25 at 4:50 pm to
Kelly made the semifinals when that was the first playoff game

Sark making the semis requires at least one win and sometimes two. If he keeps doing that he should be safe. Means his teams are consistent top 5-8 squads and in position to win it all.

Sark made it twice in power conferences and Kelly has made it as an Indy

We all know it’s not the same (I’m knocking Freeman here too).
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
19698 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 5:07 pm to
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There are many coaches that will never make the playoffs. Will there be a better HC out that would want to give a try and take a gamble?


That is correct. And their pay reflects that.

The top ten or twelve highest paid are held to a higher standard

The expectations for Alabama football are higher than they are for Kentucky football; just as expectations for Kentucky basketball are higher than they are for Alabama basketball.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
19698 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 5:09 pm to
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What if they go 22 years without winning any postseason game of significance?


Scott Woodward will give them a $100 million dollar contract that is 90% guaranteed.
Posted by John Casey
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
3666 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 6:34 pm to
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Scott Woodward will give them a $100 million dollar contract that is 90% guaranteed.


And the contract is now a bargain, relatively speaking.

Woodward just needs to fight the urge to give an extension/raise if Kelly makes the playoff, this season. That was the mistake that A&M made after the COVID season.
Posted by JayAg
Member since Jun 2021
15409 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 6:39 pm to
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And the contract is now a bargain, relatively speaking.


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Brian Kelly's buyout with LSU is a substantial $61,738,333 according to the Daily Advertiser. This buyout is second-highest in the SEC, only behind Kirby Smart of Georgia. The buyout is structured to be paid in monthly installments over the remaining term of his contract, which runs through December 31, 2031.


No way you guys got $60M, you can’t move him until that’s below $20M at least.
This post was edited on 6/14/25 at 6:40 pm
Posted by BearCrocs
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Posted on 6/14/25 at 6:43 pm to
JayFag
Posted by JayAg
Member since Jun 2021
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Posted on 6/14/25 at 6:47 pm to
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BearCrocs

Third thread you posted that.

Posted by John Casey
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
3666 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 7:40 pm to
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Brian Kelly's buyout with LSU is a substantial $61,738,333 according to the Daily Advertiser. This buyout is second-highest in the SEC, only behind Kirby Smart of Georgia. The buyout is structured to be paid in monthly installments over the remaining term of his contract, which runs through December 31, 2031.


No longer 2nd highest

Kirby ($118 mil), DeBoer ($70 mil), and Sark ($64 mil) are all higher than Kelly ($62 mil) heading into 2025 season.

Seems about right on the SEC hierarchy.
Posted by Dallaswho
Texas
Member since Dec 2023
3357 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 7:56 pm to
Kirby, Sark and Debour have all won big games. Kirby may have beat you-know-who in one.
Posted by John Casey
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
3666 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 7:59 pm to
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Kirby, Sark and Debour have all won big games. Kirby may have beat you-know-who in one


LSU is 4th best program in SEC. They have 4th highest contract buyout. Seems about right.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
18279 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 8:00 pm to
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Like many others, Brian Kelly isn’t exactly certain how the new College Sports Commission enforcement entity will ultimately implement change in the post-House settlement era.

But the LSU head football coach is confident the majority of his coaching peers will follow the new rules regulating revenue-sharing and third-party NIL deals. And, if they don’t, Kelly is hopeful the College Sports Commission and new CEO Bryan Seeley will have the teeth to drop the hammer when necessary.

How did LSU ended up having one of the top recruiting classes and one of the latest top recruing classes? No cheating going on for LSU and the coaches?
This came from this site. on3.com.







This post was edited on 6/14/25 at 8:02 pm
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