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re: Notre Dame takes shots at Brian Kelly for no reason?
Posted on 6/8/25 at 4:34 pm to JayAg
Posted on 6/8/25 at 4:34 pm to JayAg
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It’s just that, why can’t I say, Woody’s long contract with BK and his situation with Wade/refusal to move from McMahon, is potentially making 2 of the Big 3 sports stale at LSU without getting crucified by Sidewalk?
Just bc I don’t accept “Woody is responsible for 2 NC” as an answer why I can’t question him currently is bizarre to me.
Maybe worry about questioning your own AD.
What's the Bible verse about pointing out the speck in your brother's eye when you have a beam in your own?
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Posted on 6/8/25 at 4:34 pm to Wolfhound45
I believe I started one once when A&M beat LSU in football. Then maybe 2 when A&M took down LSU in basketball, I did the game threads. Then possibly I did an A&M thread when they took the series from a Top 5 LSU team in baseball. So yeah, why do you ask?
Posted on 6/8/25 at 4:35 pm to JayAg
Because you seem a bit obsessed about LSU. Congrats.
Posted on 6/8/25 at 4:38 pm to Wolfhound45
I don’t really give AF about your team. I just don’t understand this defiance, entitlement, when I’m politely asking you guys to not give AF about your own team either. You guys act like I’m asking you guys to sacrifice chickens.
Posted on 6/8/25 at 4:39 pm to JayAg
Your post history says otherwise.
Posted on 6/8/25 at 4:45 pm to JayAg
The only thing I truly question him on is his refusal to do something with McMahon. In hindsight giving BK that long contract could become an anchor around our necks if he doesn’t prove himself this year. I do understand it though. It was going to take a contract like that to get BK out of ND. Woodward does love his big name, big money hires in football. So far it’s netted him 0 nattys in football though. Just for reference though, I like BK as our football coach and I’m still behind him.
Posted on 6/8/25 at 4:55 pm to LSUtigerNVegas
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I do understand it though. It was going to take a contract like that to get BK out of ND.
True. You aren't getting a good, proven coach on anything less than like 8 years these days.
Mike Elko only had two years of head coaching experience and it took 6 years and $7 million per year to get him to A&M.
Venables was a first time head coach and he got 6 years and $8.5 million per year.
DeBoer had only been a head coach at the Division I level for 4 seasons and Alabama gave him 8 years, at a little over $11 million per year.
Posted on 6/8/25 at 4:57 pm to LSUtigerNVegas
I don’t think BK is a bad coach. I just think that he over promised results faster that he could deliver.
I never was a fire Jimbo every year, as some LSU were on here everyday, bc I was conscious of the fact that guys like Harbaugh at Michigan, Patterson at TCU tasted the post season after years of trying. Then there are outliers like Gundy at OSU that isn’t a bad coach, but has never put together an elite year.
Gone are the days that a football coach can sit at a school 6-10 years with highs and lows. We had LSU fans trolling us and USC for not firing Early or Mainieri year one. It’s crazy guys like Sidewalk have a stupid fast trigger to post and fire coaches at A&M, but then argue semantics here on why BK can’t be judged year 3. Crazy work.
I never was a fire Jimbo every year, as some LSU were on here everyday, bc I was conscious of the fact that guys like Harbaugh at Michigan, Patterson at TCU tasted the post season after years of trying. Then there are outliers like Gundy at OSU that isn’t a bad coach, but has never put together an elite year.
Gone are the days that a football coach can sit at a school 6-10 years with highs and lows. We had LSU fans trolling us and USC for not firing Early or Mainieri year one. It’s crazy guys like Sidewalk have a stupid fast trigger to post and fire coaches at A&M, but then argue semantics here on why BK can’t be judged year 3. Crazy work.
Posted on 6/8/25 at 5:00 pm to JayAg
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I don’t think BK is a bad coach. I just think that he over promised results faster that he could deliver.
Where?
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It’s crazy guys like Sidewalk have a stupid fast trigger to post and fire coaches at A&M, but then argue semantics here on why BK can’t be judged year 3. Crazy work.
Which coach at A&M did I argue should be fired? Link?
Posted on 6/8/25 at 5:03 pm to SidewalkTiger
First page, jimbo. Come on now, don’t lie.
Posted on 6/8/25 at 5:06 pm to JayAg
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It’s crazy guys like Sidewalk have a stupid fast trigger to post and fire coaches at A&M, but then argue semantics here on why BK can’t be judged year 3. Crazy work.
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First page, jimbo. Come on now, don’t lie.
I didn't say Jimbo should be fired, I was just saying he hadn't been fired yet.
Also, Jimbo was in the midst of going 5-7 in his fifth season at A&M. "Stupid, fast trigger to fire people"?
Are you actually trying to compare that to BK going 9-4 in his third year at LSU?
This post was edited on 6/8/25 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 6/8/25 at 5:14 pm to LSUtigerNVegas
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In hindsight giving BK that long contract could become an anchor around our necks if he doesn’t prove himself this year.
It's generally not the intitial contract that is the problem. Kelly was always going to get at least 5 years, unless the wheels just totally fell off. Money-wise, at this point after season 4, the buyout isn't really all that different from other top tier programs.
The problems come when extensions are handed out too fast after early success. A&M's Jimbo problem didn't come from Woodward's initial contract, it came from the extension they gave him after the COVID success. The same can be said with O's extension after 2019 (which was a Woodward mistake). At least there was a market for Jimbo, nobody was coming for O to be head coach for their program.
If Kelly makes playoff this season, as long as Woodward doesn't give some stupid extension, LSU is in good shape.
Posted on 6/8/25 at 5:45 pm to John Casey
The most compelling aspect of this is how LSU fans crucified Texas A&M and their AD Scott Woodward for hiring Jimbo Fisher with a ridiculous guaranteed contract. Three years in they ridiculed Texas A&M for having nothing to show for it.
But then, Scott Woodward ends up as the LSU AD and does the exact same thing. He hires a VERY experienced coach who has few actually meaningful accomplishments, ala Jimbo Fisher, to a ridiculous guaranteed contract. And three years in LSU has little to show for it. But somehow LSU fans are trying to convince everyone, even themselves, that this will turn out different than the Jimbo debacle. They want to convince us this is
But then, Scott Woodward ends up as the LSU AD and does the exact same thing. He hires a VERY experienced coach who has few actually meaningful accomplishments, ala Jimbo Fisher, to a ridiculous guaranteed contract. And three years in LSU has little to show for it. But somehow LSU fans are trying to convince everyone, even themselves, that this will turn out different than the Jimbo debacle. They want to convince us this is
Posted on 6/8/25 at 6:03 pm to captdalton
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But somehow LSU fans are trying to convince everyone, even themselves, that this will turn out different than the Jimbo debacle.
The college football landscape changed between Jimbo's contract at A&M and Kelly's contract at LSU?
The years of the contract are kind of irrelevant and it all comes down to the dollars. Kelly is only the 10th highest paid coach, annually, now. Deion Sanders will be making more, annually, than Kelly starting this season.
Posted on 6/8/25 at 6:06 pm to John Casey
The years of 10 year contracts are over. I remember when Mel Tucker got fired from MSU, a sports analyst said that would probably be the last 10 year contract you will see for a coach in college football.
Posted on 6/8/25 at 6:22 pm to SidewalkTiger
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DeBoer had only been a head coach at the Division I level for 4 seasons and Alabama gave him 8 years, at a little over $11 million per year.
Are you saying Mizzou will likely get the win over Alabama this coming season?
Posted on 6/8/25 at 6:24 pm to TrueLefty
Sidewalk can’t predict anything in any sport bc he’s not edumacated enough on rosters, transfers, etc. 
his own logic
his own logic Posted on 6/8/25 at 8:20 pm to TrueLefty
How do you get
From this statement?
It seems like most of the issues you, crapdalton, and JayAg have are actually the result of you folks not being able to read and comprehend what's being said.
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Are you saying Mizzou will likely get the win over Alabama this coming season?
From this statement?
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DeBoer had only been a head coach at the Division I level for 4 seasons and Alabama gave him 8 years, at a little over $11 million per year.
It seems like most of the issues you, crapdalton, and JayAg have are actually the result of you folks not being able to read and comprehend what's being said.
Posted on 6/8/25 at 8:26 pm to SidewalkTiger
Actually we don’t have Asperger’s so we don’t struggle with taking everything literally, word play debates, circular reasoning etc.
You are the LSU version of a grammar Nazi, but only “literal” logic Nazi. No critical thinking, no reading between the lines, no critical thinking skills from you.
You know that similar to a grammar Nazi, debating semantics and double standards doesn’t actually prove your points.
You are the LSU version of a grammar Nazi, but only “literal” logic Nazi. No critical thinking, no reading between the lines, no critical thinking skills from you.
You know that similar to a grammar Nazi, debating semantics and double standards doesn’t actually prove your points.
This post was edited on 6/8/25 at 8:27 pm
Posted on 6/8/25 at 8:30 pm to JayAg
28 pages. 542 posts. Respect.
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